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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby OlympicMtnBoy » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:38 am

Summitpost has shown me, over the past 8.5 years that I've been involved with it, that it cares for the individual members passion for a certain peak, place, area or range, etc. There has also been an abundance of resources available to learn from and improve one's own page submissions with. Yes, there are some members, of whom I'm also included, who have neglected pages that could use a little improvement. I know that I myself try to systematically go through and check things again on most of my pages, when I get a chance. It does take some effort to do that. I myself will try harder to maintain more up to date pages and information on them.

The way Summitpost is set up now is amazing! I don't think that changing it in any way could improve this product. I do see lots of merit with an additional section where people could post updates on current trail/weather conditions, as others have mentioned. But I also see that as a way that not so well-meaning people could put any kind of trash they wanted to on a respectable page. I don't know if there is some kind of control for that or not, so I'd rather not mess with it at all!

I vote for keeping it the way it is and not messing with any thing wiki, even if most power still stays with the page owner after a change. I'd rather have complete control and know that I can review others opinions about my pages before they are posted than to see it after the fact.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Montana Matt » Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:27 am

OlympicMtnBoy wrote:But I also see that as a way that not so well-meaning people could put any kind of trash they wanted to on a respectable page.

The section would be editable by ANYONE. So if there were trash posted there, it wouldn't be long before someone found it and deleted it.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Bob Sihler » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:05 am

I think some are still not understanding clearly (or don't want to), so I'll try to be succinct and skip the explanations.

1. Basically, Additions and Corrections becomes an open section at the bottom of the page rather than being a link on the side.

2. No other section of the page is open to anyone an owner doesn't want it to be open to.

3. The page owner is under no obligation to incorporate the information into other sections.

4. Anyone, owner included, can add, edit, and delete in that section.


Why this? There seems to be a general consensus that people are not using and/or checking the Additions/Corrections in the current format. Many guests and new members may not even notice it. We are trying to make this more visible while preserving the integrity of the page creator's work.

I've been firmly against suggestions to wikify this site, but I have no issues with this new idea.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Bob Sihler » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:40 am

Received the following in a PM. I have put in bold what I think are very good suggestions.

Thanks Bob. It sounds like it might be similar to what was proposed by moving the corrections section to the main page. I think it would be good for the page owner to be notified any time renditions are made. It might be good to make it an optional feature as well, and restrict things like emoticons or all images for that matter.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby EastKing » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:50 am

Gimpilator,

No fear about people going into your page and completely altering your page. If that was ever got brought up I would be against that in a heartbeat.. Basically Bob wants to move the additions/corrections page onto the main page and the owner of the page control of the additions/ corrections section from what I am hearing correctly.
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Re: To Wiki or not to Wiki

Postby mrchad9 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:50 am

I agree Bob!
mrchad9 wrote:Also I think the section would be text and links only. No pics would be allowed. And the font could even be a size smaller than the page itself so it doesn't look like it is part of the main work
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Josh Lewis » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:02 am

Well you have a stylist here who could easily make it look different from the rest of the page. Font size difference could work... but I think we could do something a little nicer looking. :) Perhaps a very light blue or yellow background around that section. I've got other ideas too. But font size difference not only sound boring, but makes it harder to read for people with bad vision. Trust me, the method I'm suggesting would make it obvious that it's not part of the main text.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Klenke » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:41 am

Bring back SP v1! Long live SP version 1. I want my 650pixel wide image limit back! And the Power ranking system. I had so much Power back then lightning bolts were practically coming out of my finger tips as I uploaded crappy photo after crappy photo to zero applause.

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If it is as Bob Sihler says it will be, I am okay with the wiki idea in a limited state. I am not at all for having a whole page a wiki-able.

To bastardize Mr. Kipling:
“Ye may kill for yourselves, and your mates, and your cubs as they need, and ye can;
But wiki not for pleasure of wiki'ing, and seven times never wiki an entire SP page!”
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Josh Lewis » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:46 am

Klenke wrote:I had so much Power back then lightning bolts were practically coming out of my finger tips


Just work at your art. Down the road when your older you will have so much power, you'll be just like this guy:

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Or should I say much older...
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Josh Lewis » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:01 am

Bob Sihler wrote:Too bad we don't have a spot for featured quotes.


Agreed. This is would be even more fun than a wiki box. :)
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Montana Matt » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:45 am

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Re: To Wiki or not to Wiki

Postby Marcsoltan » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:57 am

mrchad9 wrote:I agree Bob!
mrchad9 wrote:Also I think the section would be text and links only. No pics would be allowed. And the font could even be a size smaller than the page itself so it doesn't look like it is part of the main work


Again, my question, since I keep getting ignored, is there going to be a mechanism by which the owner of the page is notified that something has been added??????????????????????????
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby mrchad9 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:59 am

Add that suggestion to the comments in UserVoice Marc. Sounds like a nice idea but we don't know how much extra effort it is.

That said, I think it would be good to include and hope we have it.
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Re: Small section at the bottom of pages to be wiki?

Postby Josh Lewis » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:07 am

Marc, if a wiki box was actually added, I'd say there is a 95% chance that notifications would go with it. Since a wiki box would be more effort to watch over, there is no sense in having information changed behind people's back if you know what I mean. So don't worry about the notifications deal. When new features come out, typically new features come in to help those new features shine. :wink:
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