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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Scott » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:20 pm

The best peak list is your own. :wink:

Here's mine:

http://www.summitpost.org/scott-s-wish-list/335481

Everyone else will have a different list.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Catamount » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:15 pm

So I went and took another look at Lists of John and lost myself in it for a little while. :geek: Last time I checked the site out, I don't remember seeing much information on the traditional Northeast lists but they're all there now in the custom lists section. Pretty cool actually. Saw a few names and personas that I recognized so I added my own page. Interesting way they break the stats down. You don't see a ton of discussion on ranked peaks and prominence in the Northeast although a few folks are into P2Ks. Anyway, my numbers were 289 total peaks and 216 peaks with 300' prominence, 9 Ultras, 54 P2Ks, 4 National Park highpoints, 75 County highpoints. Never really counted before or considered things along those parameters. I'm sure I missed a good handful of PUDs but I included all of my key ascents.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Teresa Gergen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:17 pm

Nice, Catamount! We all start out familiar with how things are in one geographical area; Colorado is certainly elevation-centric, although it's also become county oriented as well. Personally, I really like seeing people from other parts of the country add their lists and ascents and broaden LOJ. Sooner or later I'll be retired and looking for other lists in other areas.

I have very little experience in the northeast, but when I was there for state highpoints, I was shocked at how much more difficult the terrain was than I was expecting. Your rocky alpine terrain is the same as ours, it just happens to be lower, and your trails are much harder, with sudden Class 3 slabs and big boulders appearing in the middle of them with no way to detour around them in the thick foliage we aren't used to here. Seemed like a "trail" out there meant any place you didn't need a machete to get through, regardless of what was actually under your feet.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Catamount » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:15 am

^^^^

Just finished reading your write-up in this quarter's edition of A to Z. Very nice read and a big congratulations on finishing the 50 highpoints. Beyond that, your accomplishments are simply jaw-dropping!

I particularly enjoyed your closing paragraph, which seems especially relevant to this thread:

"And one more thing. If you're a list person and a peakbagger, you don't need to make justifications. Own it!

Perfectly stated.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby calebEOC » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:19 pm

triyoda wrote:
Fletch wrote:http://www.cohp.org
http://www.peakbagger.com
http://www.listsofjohn.com

The above websites are FULL of info on "lists." There are quite literally, thousands of "lists" --- the ones you choose are not better or worse than any other ones, just different. And people that point out that certain areas or regions or peaks with certain prom or elevation are superior to others, are missing the whole point of hiking/climbing in my opinion. Many times, they simply haven't been there and are speculating at best. If you enjoy being outdoors and like the list you are on, then go for it.



I decided I am going to make an "Oregon 33 list", because Oregon is the 33rd state. I think it will be fun to try to pick the 33 most interesting/representative peaks in Oregon rather than just do something boring like the 100 highest.


I dont think I would call the 100 highest boring, but here is something pretty close to the 33 Oregon peaks.
Oregon 9000 foot peaks, there are 31 of them
http://www.peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=21315
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby surgent » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:14 am

The "best" lists seem...

1) ...to have about 40 to 60 peaks. Not so few that you finish quickly, not so many that you sense you'll never finish.

2) ...have a variety of peaks, ranging from easy road or trail hikes to rugged, demanding summits, just enough so that you'll really have to earn those last few to complete the list.

3) ...have some objective definition as to what peaks are included. (For this reason I have never got too worked up about the Sierra Club's Desert Peaks Section list, which is subjectively populated. Although it has many worthy peaks, and I have hiked many of them, I don't actively consult the list myself. But that's me)

4) ...force you to go beyond your comfort level and to explore places that you might otherwise have ignored.

I have been working on the list of 73 Arizona summits with 2000 feet of prominence. Exactly 6 have completed it, and maybe another 6 are actively working on this list. So that if I finish, perhaps 12 to 20 people in the whole world will actually care. But it means a lot to me, and it does motivate me to get out there, and ultimately, that's what makes it a worthy list.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby mrchad9 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:40 am

The California county highpoints (56 peaks covering 58 counties) were the most interesting and diverse group of peaks I've ever done. Lots of different terrain and most of them very worthwhile (not 20 peaks in someone's backyard... just one).
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Sarah Simon » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:19 am

surgent wrote:I have been working on the list of 73 Arizona summits with 2000 feet of elevation. Exactly 6 have completed it, and maybe another 6 are actively working on this list. So that if I finish, perhaps 12 to 20 people in the whole world will actually care. But it means a lot to me, and it does motivate me to get out there, and ultimately, that's what makes it a worthy list.


Funny you mention this. Just today I got in a surprisingly testy argument over the "Ballard & Fissure" issue. I say Fissure, he says Ballard, I say "Do both, just to be certain" he says "No, the USGS is the almighty supreme being, Ballard and Ballard only." :|

<sigh> I'm not a list-chaser, but even for me, something like a P2K - I would prefer to hedge my bets, visit both summits, and be done.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Catamount » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:12 am

So just last night, I confessed to my wife my budding infatuation with Ultras. "As long as you keep working and we can afford it" was the reply I got. :D

Perfect kind of a list for me. Peaks spread all across the west from Arizona to Washington. Easily a 15-year project. In the past, I've noticed that one list kind of bleeds naturally into the next. Other than my first list (46Rs), I've never started a list at zero. In my highpointing travels, I've bagged 9/57 Ultras to date with #10 (Mount Hood) hopefully coming in the next few months. Since I have no highpointing plans on tap for 2014, I am already thinking an Ultras trip to Arizona would be a fun way to kick things off.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby triyoda » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:49 am

calebEOC wrote:
triyoda wrote:
Fletch wrote:http://www.cohp.org
http://www.peakbagger.com
http://www.listsofjohn.com

The above websites are FULL of info on "lists." There are quite literally, thousands of "lists" --- the ones you choose are not better or worse than any other ones, just different. And people that point out that certain areas or regions or peaks with certain prom or elevation are superior to others, are missing the whole point of hiking/climbing in my opinion. Many times, they simply haven't been there and are speculating at best. If you enjoy being outdoors and like the list you are on, then go for it.



I decided I am going to make an "Oregon 33 list", because Oregon is the 33rd state. I think it will be fun to try to pick the 33 most interesting/representative peaks in Oregon rather than just do something boring like the 100 highest.


I dont think I would call the 100 highest boring, but here is something pretty close to the 33 Oregon peaks.
Oregon 9000 foot peaks, there are 31 of them
http://www.peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=21315


I like the 46, because they are not actually the highest 46 peaks in NY, and the list does not even contain all the 4000' peaks. There is a level of arbitrary to it, that makes it unique.

Taking the 31, 9000 peaks skips over some other peaks that seem more worthy IMO than using the 31 highest peaks, with a 9000' cutoff.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby surgent » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:36 pm

Sarah Simon wrote:Funny you mention this. Just today I got in a surprisingly testy argument over the "Ballard & Fissure" issue. I say Fissure, he says Ballard, I say "Do both, just to be certain" he says "No, the USGS is the almighty supreme being, Ballard and Ballard only." :|

<sigh> I'm not a list-chaser, but even for me, something like a P2K - I would prefer to hedge my bets, visit both summits, and be done.


The side-trip to Fissure from Ballard is easy and adds about 30 minutes to the whole hike. The consensus is that Fissure is higher by a few feet. The USGS makes errors, too.
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Old School WB » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:48 pm

Teresa, thanks for the link to listsofjohn, cool site.

There has been a recent surge in popularity by crazy canucks hoping to tick the list of the 54 Canadian Rockies 11,000 footers. This is likely due to the release of Bill Corbett’s ( http://www.billcorbett.ca/ ) 11,000ers of the Canadian Rockies back in 2004.

http://www.rmbooks.com/book_details.php?isbn_upc=9781897522400

Years ago I read in the Canadian Alpine Journal of Don Forest’s ascent of all the 11,000’ers and thought the feat was very impressive. Back in the mid 1990’s, an old climbing mentor of mine (British transparent) suggested the idea that we should also climb all of these grand summits. When Ian suggested this I was a rookie and thought there was no way I could accomplish this, but without real tiring too hard, now I have climbed 28 of the 54. I am keen to climb all these peak now, but with a growing family I am getting out less and less, good thing I am not in rush to complete the list.

Last count, only 9 people have completed this list.

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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby Dartmouth Hiker » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:03 pm

Sounds like most of my major lists have been mentioned here...

50 state highpoints (and also the 50 state prominence points)--both great lists.

CO 14ers--a bit overpopular but still a classic.

AZ P2Ks--just a perfect one for someone who wants to experience the full diversity of a beautiful state, from gentle pined almost-alpine summits to razor-sharp, desolate ranges in some of the most unforgiving country around. Very few are easy, but neither are most impossibly hard. Access issues exist on some, but aren't completely insurmountable. Even though I now live in CO, it's Arizona's, not Colorado's P2Ks I still hope and plan to finish someday...

Western county HPs of the lower 48--a great lifetime list, for reasons Fletch mentioned.

The 57 Ultras--exposes you to most of the "major mountains" in the lower 48. Virtually all of them *cough*Abercrombie*cough* are truly impressive, sizable mountains that loom above their surroundings...
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Re: Best peak lists (e.g. ADK 46)

Postby MississippiMark » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:05 pm

crshortt wrote:The 46ers are the 46 peaks in the Adirondacks over 4,000'. Actually, they are the 46 peaks that were originally thought to be over 4,000'. Today, only 42 of them are believed to be so. But these are the peaks that Bob Marshall and his brother climbed, being the first people to do so, and this list is the official club list for historical reasons


I'd like to complete that list some day. How hard is it? Is there any rock climbing involved?

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