I have a huge lot of climbing gear that I am ready to get rid of. I used it for 1 three day trip to smith rock and hasn't been touched since. Now I am married and the Wife won't go climbing with me and all of my previous climbing buddies have left. All was purchased in April 2011 and has been in the Mt Hardware bag in a closet ever since. The green rope was used one time in a gym. None of the ropes or equipment has had falls taken on them. No signs of wear on any equipment. The red rope is a bit dirty from the trip but has been wiped with a cloth before it was stored. Both ropes should have 2 seasons at least left in them. (Probably 3 for the greenie)