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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby fedak » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:06 am

Bob just has a different viewpoint on what plausibly constitutes "impassible" terrain than the rest of us mere mortals :)
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby LionIndex » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:39 pm

Seems like they're not entirely sure that a hunter started it, but that they're mostly ruling out marijuana plantations just because of the logistics of trying to grow in the area. Although, from the way the first paragraph is written, it sounds like they have a specific person in mind, so maybe they have more evidence than they're letting on or it just didn't make it into the article. A hunter started the Cedar Fire in San Diego County back in '03, so maybe that's where they're drawing conclusions from.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby toxo » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:26 pm

STFU OK, the whole thing is way more fantastical if the culprit has drugs or guns!
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby Enkidu » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:11 am

toxo wrote:STFU OK, the whole thing is way more fantastical if the culprit has drugs or guns!


Most hunters I know have guns.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby MoapaPk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:37 pm

Species8472 wrote:
toxo wrote:STFU OK, the whole thing is way more fantastical if the culprit has drugs or guns!


Most hunters I know have guns.



It was bow hunting season. We don't know much about the hunter yet, but deer bow-hunting season opened on the same day the fire started (close enough, anyway). Illegal campfire is cited as cause.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby thexcat » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:59 pm

Does anybody know the smoke conditions around mammoth?

Im hoping to head to convict lake tomorrow to do some peaks, but will only go if the conditions are reasonable.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby Greg Enright » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:51 am

The signs along 395 all say that Tioga Pass has reopened to through traffic.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby fedak » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:27 pm

North shore of Hetch Hetchy has started to burn :(
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby fedak » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:26 am

They have now declared the Rim fire 100% contained:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/1 ... -2-months/
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby Marmaduke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:32 am

fedak wrote:They have now declared the Rim fire 100% contained:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/1 ... -2-months/


I went to Yosemite a month ago and saw a lot of the devistation. Depressing. I know 50 to 100 years from now most of the area will be as vibrant as ever. BUT some of the area has so much granite that I don't believe growth will happen. I camped at Cherry Lake for years and that area I know was leveled. Contemplated going and taking a look. On the other hand it might be too depressing, maybe just don't go. My kids grew up there each summer for 12 years or so.

I'm happy most folks didn't lose their homes and the communities were saved! Everyone involved who fought that fire is to be thanked!!
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby LongLost » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:21 pm

fedak wrote:I know 50 to 100 years from now most of the area will be as vibrant as ever. BUT some of the area has so much granite that I don't believe growth will happen. I camped at Cherry Lake for years and that area I know was leveled. Contemplated going and taking a look. On the other hand it might be too depressing, maybe just don't go. My kids grew up there each summer for 12 years or so.


There are some areas that may well never recover because they burned so severely--it's a total moonscape in places. In other places the fire burned at low severity and had the effect of a controlled burn, and will be highly beneficial in preventing future fires from crowning. Some of the areas that burned in western Yosemite contained forests that were not to be believed--some of the best remaining mixed conifer forest left in the Sierra Nevada, containing many ponderosa pines, sugar pines, white fir and Douglas-fir up to 4-6 feet in diameter. That stuff won't be recreated within a century, if ever.

I had 20 long term forest research plots in the Park damaged or destroyed, between Hetch Hetchy and the Valley. Will not know the extent until they allow us back in there, when the tree fall hazard has subsided, hopefully next year.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby David Senesac » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:29 pm

Yesterday sent the following email to a Sacramento Bee news reporter. Hopefully they take some action.

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Am wondering why after 3 months now there has still not been an update from the US Forest Service on their investigation into the cause of the Rim Fire beyond their initial statements it was started by a hunters campfire? There was considerable activity on web boards in September after the basic information release that left a long list of questions unanswered. Some working for the forest service elsewhere stated they probably did not want to release many details until their investigation was properly performed. Understandable at the time. Newspapers across the state and nation and certainly many local Sierra foothill country local residents were wondering among a list of questions:

•WHO was the hunter?
•What were the details of what he did?
•Was the hunter's fire illegal in any way?
•If he is not going to be arrested what are Tuolumne County, the state of California, and the USFS
reasons for not doing so?
•If the campfire was illegal, what does the USFS do to discourage such activities?

Some have been wondering if the hunter is connected to either the USFS and or Tuolumne County and that if so they may be protecting the person from public exposure regardless of what they might have illegally done, hoping the news media will not ask any more questions. You and I and the rest of California are due some answers.
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Re: Yosemite Rim Fire

Postby mrchad9 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:29 pm

Would be interesting to see if they respond with anything.
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