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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby lcarreau » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:36 am

Reckon far as Arizona goes, the 10,500-acre Fishhooks Wilderness is extremely remote.

It contains no established roads or trails. Like trying to find a fish hook in a hay stack..

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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby Doublecabin » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:18 pm

Thanks to everyone for a REALLY fun thread. Scott, sorry to not be of help. I am technomoronman.

McCanster, not the furthest point but I've heard that for a town its size [less than a 1,000 people] Dubois, WY is farther form an interstate than any other.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby e-doc » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:02 pm

In NC the most remote is 11 miles, the summit of Mt Sequoyah to the nearest road (in the GSMNP). I think there are places as remote in the the Alligator River Refuge or Dare county bombing range of eastern NC. Although there are roads many are gated and not accessed by private vehicle.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby McCannster » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:41 am

Bump for this interesting thread, lots of cool spots listed here.

I would be interested to expand the OP's question to not just U.S. states, but to international areas as well.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby Bubba Suess » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:43 am

This may note be remote in terms of distance from roads and all that, but the upper section of Mud Creek Canyon on Mount Shasta is pretty inaccessible. I doubt many people, if anyone at all, has ventured in there. It is pretty inhospitable:
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby manitou » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:52 am

e-doc wrote:In NC the most remote is 11 miles, the summit of Mt Sequoyah to the nearest road (in the GSMNP). I think there are places as remote in the the Alligator River Refuge or Dare county bombing range of eastern NC. Although there are roads many are gated and not accessed by private vehicle.


For NC (6.2 miles) and TN (5.5 miles), here is a short discussion of remotest point:
http://tnlandforms.us/gsmnp/#remotest
The Dismal Swamp in NC is only 4.4 miles
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby John Duffield » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:28 pm

Zombie thread eh?

nartreb wrote:Buck Hill does look like a good candidate for RI - nearly a mile road-free radius. I was going to suggest the Worden Pond side of the Great Swamp (southwest of URI Kingston) until I discovered a couple of dirt roads on the hillock there that come in real close (and give access to an awful lot of clear-cutting for a wildlife reservation?? "88 acres agricultural land" - and a shooting range! Edit: technically it's a "Wildlife Management Area" and the shooting range is adjacent but legally separate).


I can help you here.
There are islands in Narragansett Bay, you need to take a boat to. My favorite, is Dutch Island. There's a large sprawling Civil War fort complex. We've kayaked out there twice. The first time, we did a probe in our kayaking clothes. The vegetation on many islands, is incredibly dense, we got beat up. Didn't get far.

The second time, we wore hiking clothes, landed somewhere different, and got in deeper. But the fort has several levels, the vegetation is really dense, we'll need to rap down a few levels. So we'll need a rope and prussiks.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/dutch-island-jamestown

In my state (NY), we have Fort Tyler on an island between the forks of Long Island.

Googles first hit offers this.

http://www.danspapers.com/2013/06/fort- ... nto-ruins/

As it happened, Fort Tyler never fired a shot in anger at anybody. In 1902, after the Spanish-American War ended, it was “seized” by U.S. Naval forces in a war game between the U.S. Army and the U.S. Navy, which returned it to the U.S. Army. In 1928 it was abandoned because of rising seas, in 1938 all of Gardiner’s Point Island was declared a Bird Sanctuary by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and what remained of the fort was bombarded into ruins by U.S. Navy submarines firing torpedoes and U.S. Air Force four-engine bombers dropping bombs in training missions during the Second World War.

The sailors and airmen learned their lessons well. We won that war.

Today, Fort Tyler is called, simply, The Ruins, and it needs to be avoided by mariners at all costs. The remains of the fort are not only a danger to navigation, but it is believed there may still be unexploded ordinance in the rubble after all these years.


In fact, I've been all over it, even snorkeling some of it under the water. It's a prime seabird nesting area.

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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby mountaineer » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:45 am

in my opinion the must remote area is northern middle west part of Nepal. They are totally out of surface transportation and wire telecommunication. to reach that place people has to trek for a week.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby boyblue » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:59 am

Perhaps the most remote spot that I've ever visited was the confluence of Goddard Creek and Disappearing Creek in Goddard Creek Canyon within Kings Canyon NP. Not counting the time spent for a couple of side trips to the tops of local mountain peaks (Goddard and Reinstein), the trip from Courtwright Reservoir via Hell-For-Sure and Reinstein Passes took about 4 days.

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Downstream from this confluence, is about 4+ miles of horrendous rattlesnake infested bushwhacking to the Middle Fork of the Kings River at Simpson Meadow (about a day- a really bad day). Getting to Simpson Meadow involves either crossing the Monarch Divide from Roads End near Cedar Grove (a couple of long days for us 'normal people'), coming up the Middle Fork Canyon from near Wishon Reservoir (maybe 3 or 4 long days), or crossing the Sierra Crest from the Owens Valley (at least a few days).

When I was there, it had been about 2 days since my last human encounter and about 2 days before the next one. It was a very lonely spot, indeed.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby nartreb » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:02 pm

John Duffield wrote:Zombie thread eh?

nartreb wrote:Buck Hill does look like a good candidate for RI - nearly a mile road-free radius. I was going to suggest the Worden Pond side of the Great Swamp (southwest of URI Kingston) until I discovered a couple of dirt roads on the hillock there that come in real close (and give access to an awful lot of clear-cutting for a wildlife reservation?? "88 acres agricultural land" - and a shooting range! Edit: technically it's a "Wildlife Management Area" and the shooting range is adjacent but legally separate).


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There are islands in Narragansett Bay, you need to take a boat to. My favorite, is Dutch Island


No part of Dutch Island is more than a mile from the nearest road (that's not counting abandoned roads within the fort complex), but further north, the Gooseberry Island archipelago offers some points that are at least a mile and a half from the nearest road (a bit more if you don't count airport runways). That's a good candidate if you're counting maritime islands.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby asmrz » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:50 pm

In 2013, Penelope and I hiked the High Sierra Trail but modified the return to go over Colby Pass. When we got to the Whaleback, we were some 25 miles from the nearest trail head. I think that must be one of the most remote areas of the High Sierra.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby Bob Burd » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:14 am

asmrz wrote:In 2013, Penelope and I hiked the High Sierra Trail but modified the return to go over Colby Pass. When we got to the Whaleback, we were some 25 miles from the nearest trail head. I think that must be one of the most remote areas of the High Sierra.


There was a thread on Supertopo recently regarding this. Someone did some data analysis that came up with the most remote spot in CA as judged by straight-line distance from the nearest road. Turns out to be on the east side of Milestone Bowl, not very far from Colby Pass - so good intuition Alois!
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby boyblue » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:28 am

I guess I wasn't thinking about how far a helicopter would have to go to get to a spot, but rather a combination of distance and difficulty for a hiker. I've been to Milestone Bowl and it is remote indeed, but the area I mentioned felt far more removed from the rest of the state. In terms of what is quantifiable, I would have to agree with asmrz and Bob.
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby Palisades79 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:50 pm

I wonder if California has any unvisited hidden slot canyons similar to the recently explored Vahalla in Oregon ? Maybe everyplace has not been seen .
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Re: What is the most remote place in your state?

Postby Enkidu » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:12 am

Not in the States but Torngat National Park in Labrador is 420 miles from the nearest road. No trail to get there either it would be 420 miles of overland bushwhacking from Northwest River or the Caniapiscau Reservoir. Those two places are both about 420 miles away overland as the crow flies and are as close as you can get by road. This is probably a candidate for as far you can get from a road on continental mainland outside of Antarctica. Gets a whopping average of 15 visitors a year. Usually via helicopter/ship approach.

The only place in continental North America where you visit glaciers that are east of the Rockies.

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Nunavut may have somewhere more remote as it is 2.1 million km^2 with no road network at all. Would take some more research to figure it out.
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