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Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by dpryan999 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:08 pm

you may have already travelled, but the store referenced above is the Nakumatt Mega, which is very close to the airport and open 24/7. There are quite a few around Nairobi which have some basic camping supplies, including those blue gas cannisters (see http://www.nakumatt.net/). Nairobi Sports House (no website, but google it for phone # and addresses; located in Westlands [near Sarit Center Mall], Village Market Mall and downtown) and Toread (http://www.toread.com.cn/Ennew/index.asp) (located in Yayah Center Mall and Westgate Mall) also have gas cannisters. Toread has the best selection of outdoor gear I've found; like a small Chinese-Kenyan REI. Nakumatt and Nairobi Sports Store are more on par with your department store Coleman-style camping gear. Hope you have/had a great climb to Uhuru!

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:26 pm

summitman175 wrote:Your trip sounds so comfusing !

You are not allowed and cannot fly with a gas tank anywhere in tanzania Kenya or any country in Africa!
You can find gas canisters anywhere in Tanzania, any size you want just about everywhere. This should be the least worries.
You will NOT need crampons to climb Kilimanjaro but you can bring them along if you like that.
You can get a taxi from Nairobi to Namanga (Border name between Kenya and Tanzania) but that is it. You will get out and get another Taxi at the other side of Kenya (Namanga) From Nairoobi to Namanga will cost you the least $350.00 USD or more!
From Namanga into Arusha about $200.00 UDS
There are busses many of them that live Nairobi at 9:00 am to Arusha for only $25.00 UDS

You cannot go all the way Moshi and want to trek in Mt. Meru, next day! You have to stay in Arusha if you really want trek Mt. Meru.
You need to take KLM and arrive in Kilimanjaro Internationnal Airport evening time around 9:30 Ppm Arusha and next day and continue to Moshi.

Taking taxis will cost you way to much money to go from here to there. There are other ways to get around for litle money .
I am a mountain guide graduated from Mweka Wildlife College and taking trekkers more than a 175 time up kili.
So you need to check what you are doing it doesn't seem okay. If you are trying to go cheap, what you are doing will cost you so much more than than what you are thinking!
By the way the Maasai these days are very knowledjable about money, and yes they ask for money all the time, aso much that will make you laugh! Good luck to you and have no worries about gas caniters.

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by WouterB » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:22 am

Summitman, we've followed your advise and booked a hotel in Nairobi. We'll take the bus to Moshi the following morning, which will:
  • Cose us a day
  • Save us a little bit of money
  • Give us time to shop for gas canisters
  • Get us some sleep before starting climbing.

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:43 pm

WouterB wrote:Thanks for the update summitman! I've already booked my trip, but no doubt people will sooner or later book a trip through you if you keep posting here with this kind of information!

I'll consider sleeping in Nairobi and leaving for Moshi the next day. I also told our operator that I would rather stay in Arusha, but they only have a hotel in Moshi. They were cheap, so I didn't argue... .


Oh Wish you had booked with me man! I am a native of Tanzania and grow up at the foothills of Kilimanjaro! You say you will consider sleeping in Nairobi thats is better so you can get some rest. There is a place called Back Pakers way cheap in Arusha and center of Arusha Town. You should stay there after traveling from Nairobi. It is a very long journey from Nairobi to Arusha.It use to take only 5 hours but they are fixing the main rood so it will take at 7 hours. Then from Arusha to whatever route you are starting your climb to the nearest hotel could be a few more hours.You should stay in Arusha and give me a call for sure, I would like to meet you. I am not sure what tour operator you are using but they don't seem to be helping you or giving you good information! Well hope to see you in Arusha, lol...Good luck man

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:24 pm

summitman175 wrote:Your trip sounds so comfusing !

You are not allowed and cannot fly with a gas tank anywhere in tanzania Kenya or any country in Africa!
You can find gas canisters anywhere in Tanzania, any size you want just about everywhere. This should be the least worries.
You will NOT need crampons to climb Kilimanjaro but you can bring them along if you like that.
You can get a taxi from Nairobi to Namanga (Border name between Kenya and Tanzania) but that is it. You will get out and get another Taxi at the other side of Kenya (Namanga) From Nairoobi to Namanga will cost you the least $350.00 USD or more!
From Namanga into Arusha about $200.00 UDS
There are busses many of them that live Nairobi at 9:00 am to Arusha for only $25.00 UDS

You cannot go all the way Moshi and want to trek in Mt. Meru, next day!! You have to stay in Arusha if you really want trek Mt. Meru.
You need to take KLM and arrive in Kilimanjaro Internationnal Airport evening time around 9:30 Ppm Arusha and next day and continue to Moshi.

Taking taxis will cost you way to much money to go from here to there. There are other ways to get around for litle money .
I am a mountain guide graduated from Mweka Wildlife College and taking trekkers more than a 175 time up kili.
So you need to check what you are doing it doesn't seem okay. If you are trying to go cheap, what you are doing will cost you so much more than than what you are thinking!
By the way the Maasai these days are very knowledjable about money, and yes they ask for money all the time, aso much that will make you laugh! Good luck to you and have no worries about gas caniters.

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by WouterB » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:35 pm

sjarelkwint wrote:There's a "Joker" bar in arusha right on the other side of the street of the Rwanda tribunal

23 days without alcohol and counting, so no thanks :D

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by WouterB » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:26 pm

Thanks for the update summitman! I've already booked my trip, but no doubt people will sooner or later book a trip through you if you keep posting here with this kind of information!

I'll consider sleeping in Nairobi and leaving for Moshi the next day. I also told our operator that I would rather stay in Arusha, but they only have a hotel in Moshi. They were cheap, so I didn't argue... .

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:51 am

summitman175 wrote:Your trip sounds so comfusing !

You are not allowed and cannot fly with a gas tank anywhere in tanzania Kenya or any country in Africa!
You can find gas canisters anywhere in Tanzania, any size you want just about everywhere. This should be the least worries.
You will NOT need crampons to climb Kilimanjaro but you can bring them along if you like that.
You can get a taxi from Nairobi to Namanga (Border name between Kenya and Tanzania) but that is it. You will get out and get another Taxi at the other side of Kenya (Namanga) From Nairoobi to Namanga will cost you the least $350.00 USD or more!
From Namanga into Arusha about $200.00 UDS
There are busses many of them that live Nairobi at 9:00 am to Arusha for only $25.00 UDS

You cannot go all the way Moshi and want to trek in Mt. Meru, next day!! You have to stay in Arusha if you really want trek Mt. Meru.
You need to take KLM and arrive in Kilimanjaro Internationnal Airport evening time around 9:30 Ppm Arusha and next day and continue to Moshi.

Taking taxis will cost you way to much money to go from here to there. There are other ways to get around for litle money .
I am a mountain guide graduated from Mweka Wildlife College and taking trekkers more than a 175 time up kili.
So you need to check what you are doing it doesn't seem okay. If you are trying to go cheap, what you are doing will cost you so much more than than what you are thinking!
By the way the Maasai these days are very knowledjable about money, and yes they ask for money all the time, and so much that will make you laugh! Good luck to you and have no worries about gas caniters.

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by John Duffield » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:37 pm

Thank you Summitman for your update info!

I also heard the summit permit has increased. Still should be paid in USD Travelers Cheques?

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Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:36 pm

About Visas no big deal, they must be paid in USD only and it is $50.00 for Tanzania
$50.00 takes you for a 3 month period. Tourist Visa
In Nairobi you will aslo have a visa $25.00 for a period of 3 months so when you leave Kenya and when you return your visa still good you do not need another one!
You can also get yourTanzania Visa at the border (Namanga) and at Airport.
Tanzania Visa $50.00 USd
Kenya Visa $25.00 USD and must be exactly that amount! They never have change

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by summitman175 » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:27 pm

Your trip sounds so comfusing !

You are not allowed and cannot fly with a gas tank anywhere in tanzania Kenya or any country in Africa!
You can find gas canisters anywhere in Tanzania, any size you want just about everywhere. This should be the least worries.
You will NOT need crampons to climb Kilimanjaro but you can bring them along if you like that.
You can get a taxi from Nairobi to Namanga (Border name between Kenya and Tanzania) but that is it. You will get out and get another Taxi at the other side of Kenya (Namanga) From Nairoobi to Namanga will cost you the least $350.00 USD or more!
From Namanga into Arusha about $200.00 UDS
There are busses many of them that live Nairobi at 9:00 am to Arusha for only $25.00 UDS

You cannot go all the way Moshi and want to trek in Mt. Meru, next day! You have to stay in Arusha if you really want trek Mt. Meru.
You need to take KLM and arrive in Kilimanjaro Internationnal Airport evening time around 9:30 Ppm Arusha and next day and continue to Moshi.

Taking taxis will cost you way to much money to go from here to there. There are other ways to get around for litle money .
I am a mountain guide graduated from Mweka Wildlife College and taking trekkers more than a 175 time up kili.
So you need to check what you are doing it doesn't seem okay. If you are trying to go cheap, what you are doing will cost you so much more than than what you are thinking!
By the way the Maasai these days are very knowledjable about money, and yes they ask for money all the time, aso much that will make you laugh! Good luck to you and have no worries about gas caniters.

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by WouterB » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:52 pm

Darek wrote:As you wrote, you will arrive to Nairobi. In the center of Nairobi there is a big 24/7 supermarket, where you can buy gas canisters or even complete stoves (light, suitable for trekking).

Thanks! That's good info!
How far is this from the airport? I will arrive early of my climbing friends so I might be able to go there. Then again, I arrive at 19H00 and they arrive at 20H00. Do we pass this on the way to Moshi?

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by Darek » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:50 pm

WouterB wrote:1) Where can I find gas canisters for my gas stove in Moshi?
2) Do I need crampons for Kilimanjaro and Meru (I'm climbing via Machame route in Februari).


As you wrote, you will arrive to Nairobi. In the center of Nairobi there is a big 24/7 supermarket, where you can buy gas canisters or even complete stoves (light, suitable for trekking).

Crampons are not needed on Machame Route.

Have a nice trip,
Darek

Re: Kilimanjaro gas canisters and crampons question

Post by John Duffield » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:35 pm

WouterB wrote:We will indeed take a taxi to the border. The price you're quoting is a lot higher than I had expected! Especially since it only takes you to the border. The bus goes for next to nothing, but not at that hour. So I might indeed need to look into this a bit more.



Yup.

Why I ran out of money. You'd think, it being Africa, things would be cheap. Did you book your flight yet? There was a direct KLM flight from Schiphol to Kili airport, though on the way back, it went via Dar-Es-Salam. A quick hop.

Of course, you don't live near Amsterdam any more.

Goods are cheap. I was able to punch out all of my Christmas shopping at the market in Nairobi. The amount I saved probably paid off a couple of those cab rides.

Are you doing any sort of wildlife safari? You won't see much around Kili. Some monkeys. If you're not, I wouldn't even go to Nairobi unless you must. There's no direct road from Kili. You have to take the long way around inside Tanzania. Another costly little surprise I had waiting for me.

The area around Kili is, nonetheles, attractive. The people are well off. Most houses have coffee, oranges and bananas growing around their house.

If it's possible, ask the driver to pick up a Masai. There's usually a bunch hanging around trying to crib a free ride. You'll learn much about their body tribal markings and they see wildlife I missed. Amazing the way a Giraffe blends into a couple of trees.

All of that said, the Namanga Gate, at the land crossing between Tanzania and Kenya is a very special place.

In tour operator parlance…

"We'll fly to Nairobi and after doing some errands we'll take a city tour! After honing our bargaining skills on the local merchants we'll savor the cultural ambience of a Nairobi City hack all the way to the Namanga Gate. This vehicle transfer will last about 5 hours taking out some time to change a blowout tire! We'll get dropped off at the Kenyan side and it's time for some exercise! We'll drag a ton of high altitude gear through a veritable gauntlet in the scorching sun, surrounded by a horde of touts, pimps and purveyors of everything! If you thought you attracted attention in Nairobi, this will blow your mind! We'll fill out forms in government offices along the way! We'll be surrounded by disreputable looking shops of every description. We'll practice our bargaining skills some more on the Tanzanian side as we engage another car! We'll thrill to a high speed ride in the rain with non functioning windshield wipers!”

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