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Postby butitsadryheat » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:54 pm

those are tennis shoes? :wink:
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Postby mconnell » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:21 am

butitsadryheat wrote:those are tennis shoes? :wink:


As far as most reporters know, yes.
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Postby mrchad9 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:42 am

butitsadryheat wrote:those are tennis shoes? :wink:


It's a colloquial term.

I don't know what mcyoufillintheblank is getting at.
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Postby Bombchaser » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:52 am

mrchad9 wrote:Bombchaser-

Went to Shasta last weekend- but I didn't want to do the same old routine as I have been a few times before. Decided to try something different- this time climbed it in my tennis shoes. Good time!!!

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So am I supposed to say good job for being a dumbass or what is the point of this? Apparently you didn't read the latest article in the Redding paper about the enormous cost of all of the rescues on Shasta this year. And how it talked about the majority of the accidents were due to inexperienced and unprepared people going up the mountain. You can go up there all you want, but the more people that get hurt, die, and need rescue the more likely the mountain will begin to become regulated. If you don't think this can happen, then you need to wake up. I'm sure there wasn't nearly the snow and ice condtions up there when you went up as there was a month ago either. The weather has been hot as hell the past several weeks and the snow has melted rapidly. I really don't care if you want to climb this in tennis shoes. But if you get into trouble, be a real man and drag your own ass off the mountain. If I'm out climbing and some asshole falls and hits me because he was wearing tennis shoes on ice, I'm likely to beat him so severly he will need a helicopter!!! :lol:

I can drive 100 mph on snow and ice all I want and make it from point A to B, but the first time I have to slam on the brakes someone might die!! :shock:

I spent the day digging out several 500 - 2000 pound armed bombs. So if this is all about who has the bigger balls I think I got you beat on your little tennis shoes story!! 8)

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Postby mrchad9 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:16 am

Bombchaser wrote: If I'm out climbing and some asshole falls and hits me because he was wearing tennis shoes on ice, I'm likely to beat him so severly he will need a helicopter!!! :lol:

LOL Bombchaser! Good post!

And clearly my photo was taken at basecamp! Crampons were needed from 11,600 ft up!

So do you have a link to this article you mention? I am curious about the cost of these frivolous rescues as I interpret them. No- I didn't see it but would like to. I was a little sweaty on the hike out and thought perhaps a heli ride might have been warranted, but unfortunately no cell reception.

You dig these bombs out with a shovel? Really? Seems like you you were digging out 1 ton bombs with a shovel today, it might be singular, not plural. And WTF is a bomb doing in a field in Oregon anyway?
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Postby Bombchaser » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:57 am

mrchad9 wrote:
Bombchaser wrote: If I'm out climbing and some asshole falls and hits me because he was wearing tennis shoes on ice, I'm likely to beat him so severly he will need a helicopter!!! :lol:

LOL Bombchaser! Good post!

And clearly my photo was taken at basecamp! Crampons were needed from 11,600 ft up!

So do you have a link to this article you mention? I am curious about the cost of these frivolous rescues as I interpret them. No- I didn't see it but would like to. I was a little sweaty on the hike out and thought perhaps a heli ride might have been warranted, but unfortunately no cell reception.

You dig these bombs out with a shovel? Really? Seems like you you were digging out 1 ton bombs with a shovel today, it might be singular, not plural. And WTF is a bomb doing in a field in Oregon anyway?


Well that's good you had the crampons. I don't have issue with wearing shoes, just not on steep icy terrian with fall exposure. I will try and find the link, if not I will email you the words from it I recieved in an email. I think Shasta is up to 15 rescues this year. Seems a little high? There are bombs in a lot of places believe it or not. This site happens to be in Nevada. This is an active bombing range for the Navy. There is shit here from as far back as WWII that we come across. I'm spending eight weeks here removing things like this. Congrats on your climb up Shasta. I have yet to get on that peak. The last time I had to turn back at 10,000 feet due to unexpected 100 mph winds and a gear issue.
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Postby mrchad9 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:07 am

Bombchaser wrote:Well that's good you had the crampons. I don't have issue with wearing shoes, just not on steep icy terrian with fall exposure. I will try and find the link, if not I will email you the words from it I recieved in an email. I think Shasta is up to 15 rescues this year. Seems a little high? There are bombs in a lot of places believe it or not. This site happens to be in Nevada. This is an active bombing range for the Navy. There is shit here from as far back as WWII that we come across. I'm spending eight weeks here removing things like this. Congrats on your climb up Shasta. I have yet to get on that peak. The last time I had to turn back at 10,000 feet due to unexpected 100 mph winds and a gear issue.

No worry- no one below me on this route- so no one to send me out on a heli if I fall!

So these are all US bombs... Seems like they should have addressed this some time ago. Humph.

The rescues seem high to me. But when I was there it was my understanding that typical is 30-35 per year, and it is already July, so it may actually be below normal, just that the media is looking for something to print or we are reading it more.

Let me know if you want to climb sometime. I'll head up Shasta anytime.

Another question- that I seriously wonder about- if those things can fall from a plane and hit the ground without exploding (that must be a lot of force), what really is the odds of something happening when you dig it up? There must be a piece I am misunderstanding.
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Postby Bombchaser » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:32 am

mrchad9 wrote:
Bombchaser wrote:Well that's good you had the crampons. I don't have issue with wearing shoes, just not on steep icy terrian with fall exposure. I will try and find the link, if not I will email you the words from it I recieved in an email. I think Shasta is up to 15 rescues this year. Seems a little high? There are bombs in a lot of places believe it or not. This site happens to be in Nevada. This is an active bombing range for the Navy. There is shit here from as far back as WWII that we come across. I'm spending eight weeks here removing things like this. Congrats on your climb up Shasta. I have yet to get on that peak. The last time I had to turn back at 10,000 feet due to unexpected 100 mph winds and a gear issue.

No worry- no one below me on this route- so no one to send me out on a heli if I fall!

So these are all US bombs... Seems like they should have addressed this some time ago. Humph.

The rescues seem high to me. But when I was there it was my understanding that typical is 30-35 per year, and it is already July, so it may actually be below normal, just that the media is looking for something to print or we are reading it more.

Let me know if you want to climb sometime. I'll head up Shasta anytime.

Another question- that I seriously wonder about- if those things can fall from a plane and hit the ground without exploding (that must be a lot of force), what really is the odds of something happening when you dig it up? There must be a piece I am misunderstanding.


Yeah, I might be up for a climb sometime. What is said on this forum is just that, said on a forum. Sometimes stupid things get said in heated debate. But everyone has a difference of opinion on whats wrong or right. That is why this is the US, you can have those differences.

The bombs can be in a much more dangerous condition when they fail to detonate when dropped, and when exposed to the elements over years of laying in the ground. Some items only take a change in temp from a shadow or wind or slight tap to set them off. Just have to know what your dealing with and take care when investigating them. Most of these get blown in place after investigating. There are 2000 sites for cleanup in the lower 48!! This does not count active bombing sites like this one.

Most of my climbing is in the winter. I don't summit many big peaks in the summer. I usually get back to it in November. I will climb/hike small to moderate peaks in during the warmer parts of the year.
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Postby mrchad9 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:00 am

I promise to bring my crampons!
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