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Postby John Duffield » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:39 pm

Holy Fuck. Reminds me of MT Edith Cavell.

Has the earmarks of an FA allright. Or the first hike after the winter.
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Postby Day Hiker » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:27 pm

The colors and the rockfall remind me of some misery I have experienced in Zion. But the video could be from a lot of places.

It's hard to get an exact size estimate of that big rock, but a cube of sandstone whose measurements are 1m x 1m x 1m weighs over 5000 pounds. :shock:
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Postby ksolem » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:51 pm

OK, since this is an Ethics, Spray and Slander forum I'll say it:

That guy is an idiot! And a person who would be under him there is a moron. The sad part is that if one or both of them had been killed or required a rescue the news media would have called them climbers.

Looks like Red Rocks to me but it could be a lot of places.
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Postby Day Hiker » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:01 pm

ksolem wrote:That guy is an idiot! And a person who would be under him there is a moron.


It's not a guy. Unless guys wear shorts like that. And have breasts.
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Postby ksolem » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:42 pm

Yes.

I wasn't really looking at it's figure that closely. Besides, I've seen guys wearing shorts like that at Red Rocks... you know, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas and all that.

Anyway now that the sex of the idiot and moron are established, nothing really changes...
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Postby Guyzo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:15 pm

I like the way her helmet was strapped to her pack. 8)

Dingus, sad story.

When I go climbing, the most scarcest part is coming down giant boulder fields. I know that out there, somewhere, one of those blocks has my name on it........... :twisted:
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Postby Andinistaloco » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:02 pm

What a jackass. Her partner's standing below her on a slope that bad, and instead of watching out for his safety or hers, he whips out the camera and films her coming down.

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Postby ksolem » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:04 pm

Sorry if y'all think I am callous about this. Personally I exercise extreme caution in situations where there is dangerous loose rock. Getting crushed or crushing a friend is not on my to do list.

Dingus, your story is compelling, and your friend being killed is very sobering. I have to say though that I cannot imagine you or your buddies approaching dangerous terrain like that with the yahoo attitude displayed in the video. That is why I reacted the way I did.
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Postby MoapaPk » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:37 pm

If it was Zion (DH suggested this possibility), the rock can get amazing loose very quickly, and as almost no one goes in the backcountry, few slopes are pruned of loose stuff. You grab what looks like a secure sandstone ledge, and suddenly it comes off in your hand, followed by a few hundred lbs of junk. I'm amazed that Zion reports just one rockfall fatality.

This crap happens, and often there is little warning.

The one death in our outdoor club occurred when a guy stopped to put on his poncho, and a block let loose above him and crushed him. No one was up above; it was just rotten luck, with a light rain lubricating the rocks. People started shouting "rock, rock!" but he probably just heard the rustling of the nylon.

The traditional scramble route up "Indecision Peak" in Red Rock is up a horrible sand-and-talus gully that is just waiting to let loose. I've knocked a baseball-sized rock loose, and it fell down knocking free successive larger blocks, till the final meter-sized block came to rest on the edge of a cliff.

A lot of Sierra peaks are covered with such marginally stable stuff, just waiting to break loose.
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