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Postby Alpinist » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:22 pm

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SpiderSavage wrote:I have noticed that many climbers are social. They are not interested in climbing unless someone is watching.

That's not true; I can always spray about it online later. Believe it or not, there are actually social networking sites specifically for climbers.

Yeah but "real" climbers never use those websites... :roll:
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Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:27 pm

Alpinist wrote:Yeah but "real" climbers never use those websites... :roll:


I guess none of us are "real" climbers then...including yourself!
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Postby HandjamMasterC » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:50 pm

I climbed in Kings Canyon for so many years because we had the place all to ourselves ( still do today ). I find myself avoiding all sorts of great climbs and areas because they are too damn crowded. I prefer climbing in solitude with 1 or 2 best friends.
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Postby Guyzo » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:10 pm

I hate to go solo...... you stat talking to yourself, arguing with yourself, then I loose the argument with myself. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


Rick..... you know the deal, you have been doing this for as long as anybody, if you wish to get away from others just go walk uphill for 5 miles, +2,000 feet gain, on no trail..... you be alone. :wink:
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Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:16 pm

Guyzo wrote:Rick..... you know the deal, you have been doing this for as long as anybody, if you wish to get away from others just go walk uphill for 5 miles, +2,000 feet gain, on no trail..... you be alone. :wink:


That is why I live up here Guy... you know that.

You need to get yur skinny ass up here, spend a week with me this summer and let me show the treats that not too many know about that take at least a half day of humping up 3-5K el gain and 7-12 miles or so to get to.

FortMental wrote:As the Caucasian brain gets old, its ability to deal with complex social interactions becomes severely limited. This is why secluded areas (Alaska, Idaho, mental wards) become disproportionately populated with old, cranky white guys with guns and their dogs.


Hate to tell you this amigo, but those cranky old men were up in them hills long before anyone even thought of climbing em.
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Postby Big Benn » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:53 pm

I'm creeping into this thread as one of those "silly Europe hill walkers". :( Please chuck me out if I don't belong here.

I don't climb and never will. But I still love being in what count as mountains in the UK, (Snowdonia, Wales to be more precise), and on my own.

Just day hikes, and in all weathers. Especially winter. People look at me and raise their eyebrows when I say I go alone. But I guess they've never done that.

It means there is a need to plan carefully to make sure I stay within my limited capabilities. The need to know when to turn back without anyone else to ask: either from weather that closes in too much or from a route that is beyond my reach, despite planning. And the need to think of all sorts of other things.

But it's worth it. From 4 hours up to about 8 or 9 hours. Just on my own. At my own pace. Change my route if I want to. Stop and enjoy a lovely view in my own time. Plan what for me are the harder sections on my own, then have the deep satisfaction of achievement when I get up them. And down them later on!

I think it also makes it nicer when I do walk the mountains with someone else: which is not that often, but gonna happen later this week for a couple of days with a lovely friend in the UK Peak District.
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Postby butitsadryheat » Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:58 pm

Bryan Benn wrote:I'm creeping into this thread as one of those "silly Europe hill walkers". :( Please chuck me out if I don't belong here.

I don't climb and never will. But I still love being in what count as mountains in the UK, (Snowdonia, Wales to be more precise), and on my own.

Just day hikes, and in all weathers. Especially winter. People look at me and raise their eyebrows when I say I go alone. But I guess they've never done that.

It means there is a need to plan carefully to make sure I stay within my limited capabilities. The need to know when to turn back without anyone else to ask: either from weather that closes in too much or from a route that is beyond my reach, despite planning. And the need to think of all sorts of other things.

But it's worth it. From 4 hours up to about 8 or 9 hours. Just on my own. At my own pace. Change my route if I want to. Stop and enjoy a lovely view in my own time. Plan what for me are the harder sections on my own, then have the deep satisfaction of achievement when I get up them. And down them later on!

I think it also makes it nicer when I do walk the mountains with someone else: which is not that often, but gonna happen later this week for a couple of days with a lovely friend in the UK Peak District.


Perfect attitude Bryan.
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Postby rhyang » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:00 pm

Partners are aid :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby xDoogiex » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:23 pm

My two solo east coast mountain adventures I had last year I did on weekdays so it would be less packed. Mt. Mitchell it rained the whole time and I was completely alone til 3 people walked past me at the summit. Next day I went to clingmans dome and it was packed. I walked a mile and a half to Andrews bald and didn't see anybody. It was so calm. Wish it wasn't cloudy. When I went back to my car at clingmans dome it was still insanely packed. Bummed me out. Driving through gatlinberg(sp?) also bummed me out about the smokies. My trip to the dacks ruled. Met some cool mountaineers.
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Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:37 pm

Bryan Benn wrote:It means there is a need to plan carefully to make sure I stay within my limited capabilities. The need to know when to turn back without anyone else to ask: either from weather that closes in too much or from a route that is beyond my reach, despite planning. And the need to think of all sorts of other things.

But it's worth it. From 4 hours up to about 8 or 9 hours. Just on my own. At my own pace. Change my route if I want to. Stop and enjoy a lovely view in my own time. Plan what for me are the harder sections on my own, then have the deep satisfaction of achievement when I get up them. And down them later on!


EXACTLY!!!!
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Postby graham » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:38 pm

Maybe I’m warped, but I’ve enjoyed all my days in the mountains, either with or without other folks. I can easily find zillions of homo sapiens free Sierra areas if I choose or I can join the March of the Penguins’ on Whitney, it’s all good. I especially enjoy the company of ravens, Clark’s nutcracker, bighorn sheep, big ol’ Sierra hares, etc……yeah, it’s all good 8)
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Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:45 pm

FortMental wrote:When I get old....

Sell all my crap to Squishy...
Move into a loft in the middle of some crappy city
Grow tomatoes and sensimillia in 5 gal. buckets on my roof
Take up painting
Paint naked college cheerleaders
Hike the sierras in summer, in a speedo, carrying a boombox, trailing a dozen stoned cheerleaders.

The hell with solitude. That's what suicide is for.


No ya won't... yu'll join those crusty old dudes up in the Yukon and live off of Moose fat steaks.
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