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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Kiefer » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:55 am

I agree that suggestions and advice should be public. Sending PM's about these things doesn't do anything except save face. Plus if it's constructive, and I know people get bent out of shape when offered advice or suggestions on how to do something better, folks should take that as a positive thing that other folks are taking the time to read through their submissions and offer tips to make it even better!

If someone doesn't respond to PM's, like Josh, I've had the same retorts and even no response, the Elves should consider just giving ownership to the interested party which, they do anyway? Though, eveyrone's take on 'quality' is for the most part gonna be subjective. Maybe if a page, through the new voting system when it's implemented, receives too many negitive or sub-par votes, a certain score, percentage, whatever; triggers a red flag, an alarm if you will to the owner that if changes aren't forthcoming, the page will be automatically deleted by the system to keep the site's quality integral and current...Maybe a seperate section on the front page specifically for 'revised and updated pages' for folks to look at to revise old votes and comment to strengthen and raise the page's score back over 'that threshold.' :?:

Scott's comment about people printing SP pages out for route beta made me smile. I think, personally, that would be great! You couldn't ask for a better compliment.

What about... :!:
1.) Limiting new accounts to be created ONLY at certain times? I think this would save on bogus accounts being created by wicker-basket engineers, self-promoters, shoe salesmen and 'pretty girls' marginally better than a used Whethers Original.

2.) What about a 'Member of the week'? Showcase or highlight a member on the site.

3.) Enhance the 'Getting Started' section for new members. Easier to see, additional links et al.

4.) Could you 'zing' up the intra e-mail system...PM's? Add buttons for stylizing and links?
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby lcarreau » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:53 am

Kiefer Thomas wrote: I think this would save on bogus accounts being created by ... 'pretty girls'


Ah .... I thought 'pretty girls' made the world go 'round.

But ... cyberspace is like gravity. It can suck and catch your attention (breath ?) at the very same time. :wink:
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Josh Lewis » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:29 am

Great idea's Kiefer. Yeah I probably should have posted publicly. :wink:

Regarding your points:

1) While this idea could be good in some ways, it will be bad in others. Had I tried to join SP at the "wrong time of day" I probably would not have came back to rejoin later. Back then I was not as interested in signing up to things. Personally I like the idea of making it more intelligent. What I mean by this for it to ask a question(s):

What is the name of this site? What is the highest mountain in the world? What's 5+2? Stuff that requires real thinking but is easy. Then make it randomly showing to make it not get manipulated. If such system was made, it should not be case sensitive.

2) I like that idea. It would show case members who have put some good work into SP. On my site I call it "Member Spot Light".

3) Agreed! This would be nice to have.

4) You read my mind. I've wanted this for a while now. I've got a few ideas cooking up which I plan on asking Matt about. Today he did a lot of work on the test server of SP. Currently it's invisible to the public. I'm working hard with Matt to have a stable SP template. Today some great additions were made, but there are still a few things that need to be stabilized.
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby visentin » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:08 am

Kiefer Thomas wrote:What about... :!:
1.) Limiting new accounts to be created ONLY at certain times? I think this would save on bogus accounts being created by wicker-basket engineers, self-promoters, shoe salesmen and 'pretty girls' marginally better than a used Whethers Original.

Why ? Isn't the catchpa already sufficient ?
Kiefer Thomas wrote:2.) What about a 'Member of the week'? Showcase or highlight a member on the site.

No. Facbook is for that.
Kiefer Thomas wrote:3.) Enhance the 'Getting Started' section for new members. Easier to see, additional links et al.

Yes
Kiefer Thomas wrote:4.) Could you 'zing' up the intra e-mail system...PM's? Add buttons for stylizing and links?

Why not but is it really needed ?
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Montana Matt » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:30 am

Kiefer Thomas wrote:1.) Limiting new accounts to be created ONLY at certain times? I think this would save on bogus accounts being created by wicker-basket engineers, self-promoters, shoe salesmen and 'pretty girls' marginally better than a used Whethers Original.

This would not be a good idea. The number of spammers have been cut down dramatically since requiring email verification and manual dragging of an arrow to enable the registration form. Taking it any further would prohibit new members from joining.
Kiefer Thomas wrote:2.) What about a 'Member of the week'? Showcase or highlight a member on the site.

Very cool idea! But how would it be implemented exactly? Programatically choosing someone and parsing part of their profile and displaying their contribution stats? Or should it be something done manually with a bit of information written about the member.
Kiefer Thomas wrote:3.) Enhance the 'Getting Started' section for new members. Easier to see, additional links et al.

Is there a "Getting Started" section? Hah, I don't even know where it is. I suppose it should be made much easier to see. Can you provide me a link to it?
Kiefer Thomas wrote:4.) Could you 'zing' up the intra e-mail system...PM's? Add buttons for stylizing and links?

Yeah, that could be done. I'm not sure that would be a high priority though. If Josh wants to work on it, I'll take his HTML/CSS and implement it.
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Bob Sihler » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:41 am

The thought behind featuring a member of the week is noble, but oh my goodness what a can of worms...
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Montana Matt » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:45 am

Bob Sihler wrote:The thought behind featuring a member of the week is noble, but oh my goodness what a can of worms...

Why can't everyone just get along...;)
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Josh Lewis » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:21 am

I think what Kiefer was getting at with stylizing was the actual formatting you the poster can do.

Here's a screen shot taken from my site of the PM system:

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I'm willing to stylize the PM and email system, but am not skilled at the additions of functions. Not sure how much this could help, but here's the Private Message System that I use. Right now SP's PM system is rather old fashion. Most forums allow more formatting in their PM's than SP's private message system.
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Re: SP Home Page

Postby Montana Matt » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:35 am

The PM and email system does need to be revamped, but I don't think this is as critical as some other issues that need to be addressed. It is on the list, but not near the top at the moment.
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