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Postby MoapaPk » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:56 pm

The bulk uploader was extremely helpful in my last two submissions. I like the facts that I can put the captions into the jpg files off line, and have them appear automatically; and that I immediately have a list of the image id tags.

But I don't think SP is in danger of a flood of submitted photos, for the simple reason that the SP interface (not the uploader) still makes the process more difficult than on flickr, picassa, webshots, meetup.com, etc. I've found that people rarely submit lots of photos in bulk, unless the interface is very simple (which usually means "not powerful"), and is hosted by the web page itself.

Perhaps the biggest problem for space is that people tend to upload their originals, as they come right off the camera. I can understand this when the original contains important information about the route; but usually a 1024 x 768 pixel^2 image will convey the needed information.

Perhaps the very difficulty of the submittal process, limits submittals to people who are serious.
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Postby Gangolf Haub » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:34 pm

Bob Burd wrote:
Gangolf Haub wrote:blah, blah, blah, blah

But nobody ever listens anyway. And the little they listen to they soon forget.


What? :D


QED :roll:
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Postby Gangolf Haub » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:38 pm

MoapaPk wrote:The bulk uploader was extremely helpful in my last two submissions. I like the facts that I can put the captions into the jpg files off line, and have them appear automatically; and that I immediately have a list of the image id tags.

But I don't think SP is in danger of a flood of submitted photos, for the simple reason that the SP interface (not the uploader) still makes the process more difficult than on flickr, picassa, webshots, meetup.com, etc. I've found that people rarely submit lots of photos in bulk, unless the interface is very simple (which usually means "not powerful"), and is hosted by the web page itself.

Perhaps the biggest problem for space is that people tend to upload their originals, as they come right off the camera. I can understand this when the original contains important information about the route; but usually a 1024 x 768 pixel^2 image will convey the needed information.

Perhaps the very difficulty of the submittal process, limits submittals to people who are serious.


1024 x 768: yes
bulk uploader: I don't see how it makes things faster as you have to fill in the captions anyway. For me the routine described above is much faster as I can see the images which I will place in my TR or mountain page.

Also my version of the bulk uploader always crashes at the end of the upload. I wrote an email to the programmer which never got answered. He is using his power to ignore me!

Now I'm frustrated

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Postby MoapaPk » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:00 pm

Gangolf Haub wrote:
1024 x 768: yes
bulk uploader: I don't see how it makes things faster as you have to fill in the captions anyway.


You can do it offline, and don't have to go back and forth between pages (with your work going into the ether when SP hiccups). Plus, your photos (jpgs) then have those captions embedded in them. Put the captions and titles right in the photos with a jpg editor offline, and the bulk uploader does all the parsing. I make a lot fewer mistakes when I use this process.
Perhaps this isn't a critical feature for people who have simple cations for scenery; but if there is some complex description of routes or geology in the caption, this feature is quite helpful.
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Postby Gangolf Haub » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:10 pm

MoapaPk wrote:
Gangolf Haub wrote:
1024 x 768: yes
bulk uploader: I don't see how it makes things faster as you have to fill in the captions anyway.


You can do it offline, and don't have to go back and forth between pages (with your work going into the ether when SP hiccups). Plus, your photos (jpgs) then have those captions embedded in them. Put the captions and titles right in the photos with a jpg editor offline, and the bulk uploader does all the parsing. I make a lot fewer mistakes when I use this process.
Perhaps this isn't a critical feature for people who have simple cations for scenery; but if there is some complex description of routes or geology in the caption, this feature is quite helpful.


We all have different ways of working on the site. For me the BU does not speed up the process, rather the other way around. And honestly, I don't see the hiccup issue. As long as I fill the textbox hiccups won't affect me. If there's a hiccup during uploading I simply have to use the browser back button. But what happens if there is a hiccup during upload with the BU? Issue and solution will be similar, I'd suppose.

But, by all means, go on using the BU, if it helps you.
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Postby mvs » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:11 pm

Haha! Okay Gangolf, Bob you guys had me rolling on the floor.

You have payed me back for my disparaging remarks in the meanest way possible: you actually gave me what I wanted. The flood of bugs and requests might never end now. Can you guys ask Josh where he ran away to? :wink:

Also, Gangolf, there were some bug fixes regarding a crash of the program at certain points, if you still see that on the latest version let me know again and I'll do my best to restrain my natural urge to ignore you. :twisted:

Anyway, thanks guys for the vote of confidence. The front page does inspire me to do the work.
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Postby MoapaPk » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:48 pm

Gangolf Haub wrote: But what happens if there is a hiccup during upload with the BU?


Global warming. Or maybe cooling. Anyway, there will be a climate change.
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Postby Dave Dinnell » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:20 am

Dingus Milktoast wrote:....

So my diatribe did some good.

DMT


A diatribe for the tribe!!!111



or is the term "tribe" verboten around here:?
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