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Postby The Chief » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:56 pm

stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.
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Postby butitsadryheat » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:57 pm

He wouldn't do that! He hates capitalism, and loves his socialist country that pays for all of his needs and whims! :lol:
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Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

Postby Alpinist » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:11 pm

Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.
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Postby mrchad9 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:30 pm

stefschuermans wrote:
The Chief wrote:
stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.


You never saw the conversation between myself and squishy about this so shut the fuck up will ya?

You have my mailadres, you may always email me but I won't respond on this subject in a propper way on this forum!

I think everyone can decide for themselves who the cry-baby is.
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Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

Postby Buz Groshong » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:44 pm

Alpinist wrote:
Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.


This doesn't agree with my memory (could be wrong) of the way things started out. I can remember being amazed that someone could put this together and aquire the server space for all of the pictures without any visible way to make money off of it (no ads). My first thought was that it was a government employee, and that unbeknownst to some federal agency they were hosting it on some secret place on their computer.
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Postby Andinistaloco » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:55 pm

The Chief wrote:
stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.



Indeed....

So many people were so sure - and vocal as hell about it - that SP owners and management and elves were doing such a shit job.

And then when given an opportunity to do better, look what happened.

What a surprise... it turned out it wasn't as easy as they thought. Y'know how the elves REALLY got my respect? I didn't hear them snickering about it. I know I would've been.




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Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

Postby Alpinist » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 pm

Buz Groshong wrote:
Alpinist wrote:
Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.


This doesn't agree with my memory (could be wrong) of the way things started out. I can remember being amazed that someone could put this together and aquire the server space for all of the pictures without any visible way to make money off of it (no ads). My first thought was that it was a government employee, and that unbeknownst to some federal agency they were hosting it on some secret place on their computer.

Here's a walk down memory lane for you. This is the SP Gear page from 2001 & 2002.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011214110151/summitpost.com/mountains/gear.pl

http://web.archive.org/web/20020321072913/www.summitpost.com/gear/
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Postby MoapaPk » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:27 pm

Snow Leopard would not be the gear powerhouse it is today without SP advertising.

There is a rumor that the elves have gotten a big advance on a book deal.

And of course, there is the REI power points discount.
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Postby Alpinist » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:40 pm

Don't forget that the points earned during SP1 are worth 2x the points earned during SP2 at REI. :wink:
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Postby Scott » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:46 am

Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.

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Chief, this has been discussed at length before. Lots of speculation going on too. I managed to calculate these numbers and decided to share them. They are still an estimate, but should hopefully stop some of the speculation. As Gobriango said, I too would love to buy the site for that amount of money. Not because I think it is worth it right now, but because there is a huge potential.

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I've been talking about this a month ago, my estimated value was 52.000 dollar.

I even contacted the owners if they would sell this place. I really was thinking and still believe some parts in the code has to change ...

I think it is for the money they would do this. If they wouldn't and really would do it for the mountains and people they would have changed this code 2 ---- years ago!


This coming from two people whom have contributed absolutely nothing at all that is of value to this website? :? :?:
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Postby ericwillhite » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:20 am

I see people don't know jack about how much a website makes or it's actual value on the market. This site makes good money for somebody and I hope it continues to do so for years to come. Maybe we should discuss just how much money this site makes us individually. Summitpost has saved me the cost of 2-3 books per year. Summitpost saves me from purchasing 20-30 maps per year. Summitpost saves me from having to find access to at least 40 peaks per year. That's the gas and wear and tear on my truck. Summitpost saves me from the time and effort researching peaks and routes that have already been posted. Maybe you need to be a pre-internet climber to understand these concepts?

So, from how I see it, Summitpost has cost me nothing but saves me hundreds of dollars a year. Should I care that someone is getting bank from this service to me? No. Should I admire the genius of a website where volunteers do all the work yet the creator gets the cash? Whomever the creator is, I salute you and wish you more good fortune.
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Postby mrchad9 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:27 am

touching... absolutely touching...

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