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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:18 am

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Diego Sahagún wrote:Any new recommendation :?:

Would you like one of those for two strong persons :?:

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/bionnassay-t2-6178612/

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/t2-ultralight-pro-6187537/ Cheap and little package but bad conditions safe and enough room :?:


That weighs 3 Kg so it won't low our 3 people old tent weight :(

I were thinking on the next nice tent but seems a little weighty. Have you tried it :?:

http://www.mountainhardwear.com/en-CA/P ... &prod=3405


Is it rain storm and hard winds safe :?:
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Postby Captain Beefheart » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:35 am

Hilleberg Kaitum. Its the best tent that I've ever used. Works great in winter with just the outer tent, which adds extra space... especially if you dig out the floor. Works great in Summer with just the inner. Its not free standing but its never been an issue for me. I guess if you sleep on small ledges a lot it will be a problem since its huge! But if thats the case, a ledge tent would be the best choice. My experience with tunnel tents is that they breathe far better than any other design.

As far as ledge/ climbing tents go... check out the Nemo Tenshi. Its larger than the Biblers, similar to an IntegralDesigns MK3 in size and quality and has a built-in anchor attachment.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:54 am

Captain Beefheart wrote:Hilleberg Kaitum. Its the best tent that I've ever used. Works great in winter with just the outer tent, which adds extra space... especially if you dig out the floor. Works great in Summer with just the inner. Its not free standing but its never been an issue for me. I guess if you sleep on small ledges a lot it will be a problem since its huge! But if thats the case, a ledge tent would be the best choice. My experience with tunnel tents is that they breathe far better than any other design.


Its length could be a problem when you can't find enough room on the ground. I see that the entries are open on a side. Is it true :?: Is it hard rain and winds safe :?:

Nemo Tenshi is expensive for us, sorry we are looking for a 350$ or less tent (including postage and packing to Europe). Concerning Black Diamond. Any light, roomy for 2 strong persons and hard recommendation :?:
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Postby cb294 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:17 am

Captain Beefheart wrote:Hilleberg Kaitum. Its the best tent that I've ever used. Works great in winter with just the outer tent, which adds extra space... especially if you dig out the floor. Works great in Summer with just the inner. Its not free standing but its never been an issue for me. I guess if you sleep on small ledges a lot it will be a problem since its huge! But if thats the case, a ledge tent would be the best choice. My experience with tunnel tents is that they breathe far better than any other design.

As far as ledge/ climbing tents go... check out the Nemo Tenshi. Its larger than the Biblers, similar to an IntegralDesigns MK3 in size and quality and has a built-in anchor attachment.


Second the Kaitum. Indestructible, but unfortunately not that light.

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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:35 am

Hilleberg tents are expensive for us (over 350$), sorry
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Postby Mihai Tanase » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:21 pm

Diego, look here for a Jostedal from Helsport

http://stores.shop.ebay.de/Pathfinder-M ... QQ_armrsZ1

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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:12 pm

Hi Mihai :!:

We're looking for a 3 seasons hard (wind and rain) but light (2.5 Kg maximum) double wall tent for 2 persons. It must not be too narrow (130 minimum), warm enough for using at nights below -5ºC. We have a tent for 3 (4) that I've used in Mont Blanc and Jbel Toubkal, it must be over 3 Kg, so we'd need a lighter one but usuable under such summer conditions as well as in higher temperatures (summer Pyrenees, Picos de Europa, Sistema Central).

That one you say looks hard and roomy but 2.7 Kg may be too much and near our old tent weight
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Postby neilthemeal » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:19 am

Diego, I think you are asking for too much. Tom Ritchey was known for a saying regarding bicycle components but it applies here perfectly, "light, cheap, durable; pick two".

The lightest double wall, "mountain tents", that are under $350, I can think of both weigh 2.7kg packed up (I don't know what weight you are using, trail weight or packed):

http://www.rei.com/product/753334

http://www.outdoorresearch.com/site/aries_mesh.html

If you really want a light tent for under $350 thats storm worthy, I suggest you take a closer look at the single wall cross pole tents.

The Nemo Nano has an integrated vestibule and is listed as a 3/4 season tent. It is made out of the same material as the Tenshi, so should share it's breathability characteristics.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:44 am

neilthemeal wrote:Diego, I think you are asking for too much. Tom Ritchey was known for a saying regarding bicycle components but it applies here perfectly, "light, cheap, durable; pick two".

The lightest double wall, "mountain tents", that are under $350, I can think of both weigh 2.7kg packed up (I don't know what weight you are using, trail weight or packed):

http://www.rei.com/product/753334

http://www.outdoorresearch.com/site/aries_mesh.html

If you really want a light tent for under $350 thats storm worthy, I suggest you take a closer look at the single wall cross pole tents.

The Nemo Nano has an integrated vestibule and is listed as a 3/4 season tent. It is made out of the same material as the Tenshi, so should share it's breathability characteristics.


Hi Neal,

I'm using the total weight, packed I think. That Rei tent seems similar to Sojourn and weighs the same, 2.5 Kg, it could be interesting though is dearer than the last. Those tunnel tents are good when you need to cook in the vestibule for example but their weight are over 2.7 Kg. I'm not asking for too much, we want one of the best tents with those specs I put, that's it
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Postby Captain Beefheart » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:10 pm

I know of a few folks that use the BD tents. In rain they just rig a tarp over it. I believe the tub is water resistant.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:31 pm

What's tub :?:
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Postby Captain Beefheart » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:43 am

Diego Sahagún wrote:What's tub :?:


Sorry... The tub is the floor of the tent, usually seam sealed and somewhat watertight.
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Postby dan2see » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:34 am

I don't do snow-bound alpine overnights, just ridges. The nights are cool, and my sleeping bag is warm enough.

The only shelter I take up there is one of those "emergency space blankets". It's OK as a lean-to for rain. But if it's not raining or snowing, I'll forgo the lean-to and sleep under the stars.

Edit to add:
I live in Alberta where it's usually dry.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:06 am

Diego Sahagún wrote:
Diego Sahagún wrote:
Diego Sahagún wrote:Any new recommendation :?:

Would you like one of those for two strong persons :?:

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/bionnassay-t2-6178612/

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/t2-ultralight-pro-6187537/ Cheap and little package but bad conditions safe and enough room :?:


That weighs 3 Kg so it won't low our 3 people old tent weight :(

I were thinking on the next nice tent but seems a little weighty. Have you tried it :?:

http://www.mountainhardwear.com/en-CA/P ... &prod=3405


Is it rain storm and hard winds safe :?:


Well :?:
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Postby TheOrglingLlama » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:28 pm

goldenhopper wrote:I recommend
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Llama trekking !


Good to see you have finally come around :mrgreen:
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