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Postby Cookie Addict » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:12 pm

mconnell wrote:
rhyang wrote:As I understand it with subaru AWD you have to run all four wheels as closely matched as possible or else the differential may fail prematurely.


I think that is a scam by tire retailers to sell more tires. If that were the case, failing to rotate tires or failing to regularly check tire pressure would cause the differential to fail. So would a lot of driving on windy roads.


I just had to replace a tire and wheel (huge lag bolt/screw in the Home Depot parking lot) and got the whole spiel from the local tire place. I have my dealership do the premium oil change and there is tire road hazard insurance included with as long as you let them swap oil every 6 months. I called them and got the same story about tire diameter... I let the service guy finish and then told him I had the insurance. He didn't bat an eye or change his tune at all - I got 4 new tires at no cost except the oil changes.

It seems to me if this were scam that the dealership/service center would be hesitant to give away $1200 in new rubber if they could avoid it.

Thoughts?
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Postby rhyang » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:16 pm

$1200 ? Holy jebus. I paid half that for my tripletreds + alignment. Maybe it's my disabled sticker or something ..
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Postby Cookie Addict » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:30 pm

rhyang wrote:$1200 ? Holy jebus. I paid half that for my tripletreds + alignment. Maybe it's my disabled sticker or something ..


I have WRX sti. The stock tires are $275 a pop - add mount/balance/recycling fee/etc retail would be 1.2K Again, it was covered by the oil changes so I didn't have any out of pocket for them.
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Postby Cookie Addict » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:01 pm

TacoDelRio wrote:STi tires = not like all other tires. :lol:


The summer tires are Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 235/35ZR19 and I run Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 when there is snow on the hills. Both are pricey but 290 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm and 305 HP asks a lot of the tires so why depend on mediocre rubber?

As this is the Scooby thread and in the interest of full disclosure I did have to have my clutch replaced at 24K. The only racing I do is into the mountains after getting off work late, so the premature failure pissed me off. Apparently, this short clutch life is an issue with the WRX that is well known and documented on the interwebs. Mine was covered under warranty, but the typical OEM replacement is 1200-1500 bucks. Not enough to make me want to get rid of mine or talk smack about it, but enough that I don't let neophytes/relatives drive it. I still love and am thoroughly impressed with the car and the brand.
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Postby Yeti » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:31 pm

Cookie Addict wrote:...290 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm and 305 HP... I did have to have my clutch replaced...

Ahh there's a very good reason that this is the case, and you paid extra for it. ;)
The drivetrain is all about getting power to the wheels. When you have AWD, you have very little slip at the wheels. Slipping tires act like a "fuse" in an electrical system, they break loose before something else does. AWD and grippy tires is like putting a higher voltage fuse in the system. It doesn't blow as easily, but you increase the chances of frying something else. Good traction wears mechanical components. It's a common myth that "burning rubber" is bad for the drivetrain, it's not as hard on the componenets as gripping is.
Case in point:
I have 3600lb rwd car, 300lbft at the wheels.
On street tires, I can't drag race, there's no grip. It will burn the tires in 3rd gear. Slippy slippy slippy.
If I put drag radials on it, and I actually get good grip off the line... my half shafts snap. Like friggin clockwork, every time. So, I stay on road courses and avoid drag strips. ;)

When your car is off warrantee, stop going to the dealership. I know there are a few Subaru Specialty shops in Ohio, maybe there's some out your way. Always go with the nerds.

Good to see the Subbie thread is still alive!

P.S. I've never broken a sway bar, and god knows I've tried. I would say that your oversized load had more to do with it. If the bar was heavily permiated by rust it would be more prone to fail. you'll probably notices that your off-road performance is better without it, and straight-line driving is unaffected. It gives you turning stability, nothing else.

Replacign all 4 tires; there is logic behind that depending on what differential you have.
When one wheel turns faster than another, it engages your LSD (should you have one). If one is constantly in this state, than your traction systems are constantly in use, and they will wear faster.
To stay on the cheap, you might be able to find a shop that will shave your new tire for you. Get a single new $50 crap tire and shave it to match the rest, then wait for the whole set to wear down and replace them all.
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Postby mconnell » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:21 pm

Cookie Addict wrote:
mconnell wrote:
rhyang wrote:As I understand it with subaru AWD you have to run all four wheels as closely matched as possible or else the differential may fail prematurely.


I think that is a scam by tire retailers to sell more tires. If that were the case, failing to rotate tires or failing to regularly check tire pressure would cause the differential to fail. So would a lot of driving on windy roads.


I just had to replace a tire and wheel (huge lag bolt/screw in the Home Depot parking lot) and got the whole spiel from the local tire place. I have my dealership do the premium oil change and there is tire road hazard insurance included with as long as you let them swap oil every 6 months. I called them and got the same story about tire diameter... I let the service guy finish and then told him I had the insurance. He didn't bat an eye or change his tune at all - I got 4 new tires at no cost except the oil changes.

It seems to me if this were scam that the dealership/service center would be hesitant to give away $1200 in new rubber if they could avoid it.

Thoughts?


My road hazard will only replaced the damaged tires. Pretty meaningless when they argue about replacing the tire unless you buy 3 more. I will usually replace 2 tires (the 2 on the same axle), but not 4 unless they are getting bad anyway. With 2, it usually involves me taking in the rims to have the tires mounted, putting the rims back on the car, then driving it in for an alignment.
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Postby Zzyzx » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:49 am

WRX wagon looks pretty cool, doesn't it?

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I'm thinking about getting an old Subaru. I was looking for an Outback, but WRX sounds like a really cool vehicle.

Has anybody here owned an SVX?

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Postby gwave47 » Sat May 01, 2010 3:57 am

It doesn't matter what kind of car you drive.... if your license plate says Florida on it... you're going to be slow and hold up traffic.
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sweepstakes, anyone?

Postby jnp701 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:48 pm

if you're a subaru junkie you can check out http://www.blueridgeoutdoors.com/current-issue/switchback/ and try to win some free official gear.

btw this is probably how i'm getting my dad a birthday present this year...
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Postby NW » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:21 am

Nice to see how many Subaru lovers there are here. My first car was a 1990 Subaru Legacy, paid 1800 for it, which was alot when you only 18! We have a 1997 Subaru Legacy wagon now. I just love having the confidence that I will be able to make it down and back a snowy/muddy/barely even visible path through the woods. Ours is just a pretty bare bones model, no power windows, locks, etc but I like them basic and my transmission standard.
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Postby pearson » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:43 am

The first time I drove up to the solar powered shithouse at Yankee BOy basin I was in my Outback. I fergit what time I got there. About daybreak, I reckon. Scampered up that mountain there, whachamacallit and drove out leaving the shithouse before noon. Snefflels. On the way out, once I got jammed up behind people, some Texans in a rent-a-4wd looked down at me and said sumpin' like: "How d'yall drive that thay-ung?" I grabbed the steering wheel and jiggled it w/ both hands and wiggled my feet. I figured even Texans could understand that.

No one ever passed my when I was driving a Subaru on a bad road. Of course I limited the exposure, but I passed a ton of jeeps and other SUV type contraptions in my subi. It rocked. Should never have loaned it to my daughter.
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Postby mrh » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:21 am

I knew we'd see pearson again.

Oh, my first car was a suburu.
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