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by erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:23 pm

2_climbaxes wrote:The best Socialism has to offer! Heroin.

Congratulations, the emptiness of your statements has reached a new low!

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Re: UK to patients -- Eat shit

by erykmynn » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:25 pm

truchas wrote:Another resounding success of the UK free health care program. foangryweasel approves.

Yet because midwives don't have time to sit with women in early labour for more than a few minutes at most, we are encouraged to do the next best thing.

We offer them strong painkilling drugs such as pethidine or diamorphine - which is a form of heroin.

Drugs keep the mother nice and quiet which, of course, suits staff.

Welcome to the modern NHS maternity ward. A world of shoddy practice, poor hygiene standards and a shocking disregard for patients' individual needs.


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Wow, a meltdown and yet they have less infant mortality! Maybe by the time the stats from this year hit, they'll only have barely outperformed the US.

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by DBaker » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:27 am

And you think Britain doesn't have illegal aliens?

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by Mike Zastoupil » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:47 pm

truchas wrote:
DBaker wrote:And you think Britain doesn't have illegal aliens?


Not as many as we do here. And I am not sure if the culture there is to have a kid just after puberty. It's sad, but many here have kids as soon as possible in order to get free government welfare and a free pass to their illegal parents to be able to stay in the U.S. (anchor babies).


You should see the illegals in line at the recorders office to pick up birth certificates for their Anchor Babies. Norwalk Ca the line can wrap around the building with babies in strollers and no one speaks english and yes they are very young.

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by fsclimb » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:14 pm

squishy wrote:
truchas wrote:
Mike Zastoupil wrote:
truchas wrote:
DBaker wrote:And you think Britain doesn't have illegal aliens?


Not as many as we do here. And I am not sure if the culture there is to have a kid just after puberty. It's sad, but many here have kids as soon as possible in order to get free government welfare and a free pass to their illegal parents to be able to stay in the U.S. (anchor babies).


You should see the illegals in line at the recorders office to pick up birth certificates for their Anchor Babies. Norwalk Ca the line can wrap around the building with babies in strollers and no one speaks english and yes they are very young.


Yep, it's really sad. But if you mention anything about it, the radical libs will just throw out the race card, even though their policies are are the ones that are racist.


Fuck you dude...I'm so sick of your slander...Republicans, like yourself, are far more racists than any of the liberals I know...but what do I know, just what my eyes and ears tell me I guess...you must be fucking delusional or paid by the fucking republican party...I don't wish you any ill will, except maybe he inability to speak, we would all benefit...


Typical response...follow the script. And which party tried to abolish slavery again?
No need to examine FACTS

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by hoser23 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:37 pm

fsclimb wrote:
squishy wrote:
truchas wrote:
Mike Zastoupil wrote:
truchas wrote:
DBaker wrote:And you think Britain doesn't have illegal aliens?


Not as many as we do here. And I am not sure if the culture there is to have a kid just after puberty. It's sad, but many here have kids as soon as possible in order to get free government welfare and a free pass to their illegal parents to be able to stay in the U.S. (anchor babies).


You should see the illegals in line at the recorders office to pick up birth certificates for their Anchor Babies. Norwalk Ca the line can wrap around the building with babies in strollers and no one speaks english and yes they are very young.


Yep, it's really sad. But if you mention anything about it, the radical libs will just throw out the race card, even though their policies are are the ones that are racist.


Fuck you dude...I'm so sick of your slander...Republicans, like yourself, are far more racists than any of the liberals I know...but what do I know, just what my eyes and ears tell me I guess...you must be fucking delusional or paid by the fucking republican party...I don't wish you any ill will, except maybe he inability to speak, we would all benefit...


Typical response...follow the script. And which party tried to abolish slavery again?
No need to examine FACTS


Sorry Dude, no offense, but that is a weak argument. The GOP of then and now are the same in name only.

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Re: UK to patients -- Eat shit

by Big Benn » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:51 pm

truchas wrote:Another resounding success of the UK free health care program. foangryweasel approves.

Yet because midwives don't have time to sit with women in early labour for more than a few minutes at most, we are encouraged to do the next best thing.

We offer them strong painkilling drugs such as pethidine or diamorphine - which is a form of heroin.

Drugs keep the mother nice and quiet which, of course, suits staff.

Welcome to the modern NHS maternity ward. A world of shoddy practice, poor hygiene standards and a shocking disregard for patients' individual needs.


Source


The UK system is not perfect. And the downsides do get a lot of bad publicity these days, such is the thirst of the media to find any big UK organisation to knock down. Such is life.

But our National Health Service does have a great deal going for it. At least so far as my own rather extensive personal experiences of it are concerned.

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by Mike Zastoupil » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:23 pm

squishy wrote:
truchas wrote:
Mike Zastoupil wrote:
truchas wrote:
DBaker wrote:And you think Britain doesn't have illegal aliens?


Not as many as we do here. And I am not sure if the culture there is to have a kid just after puberty. It's sad, but many here have kids as soon as possible in order to get free government welfare and a free pass to their illegal parents to be able to stay in the U.S. (anchor babies).


You should see the illegals in line at the recorders office to pick up birth certificates for their Anchor Babies. Norwalk Ca the line can wrap around the building with babies in strollers and no one speaks english and yes they are very young.


Yep, it's really sad. But if you mention anything about it, the radical libs will just throw out the race card, even though their policies are are the ones that are racist.


Fuck you dude...I'm so sick of your slander...Republicans, like yourself, are far more racists than any of the liberals I know...but what do I know, just what my eyes and ears tell me I guess...you must be fucking delusional or paid by the fucking republican party...I don't wish you any ill will, except maybe he inability to speak, we would all benefit...


Raciest

Who makes up the Black and Hispanic Caucus? Almost entirely Democrats. Are they Black, Brown or like everyone else just plain Americans. The Democrats bow down at the race alter all the time. So when you see Michael Steele on TV do you try to adjust the color because the Republican cannot possibly have someone like him as head of the RNC!!!!! I know if you are black and conservative he must be called and Uncle Tom by the left! I will still remind you that it was the Democrats led by KKK Byrd that tried to stop the equal rights amendment!

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by mconnell » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:04 am

MikeTX wrote:the problem with our healthcare system is not our undocumented workers. it's all those greedy doctors bilking insurance companies by recommending procedures and tests we don't need. it's true. just ask SLR and peladoboton.


Which the doctors have to do, or some ambulance chasing lawyer will convince someone to sue the doctors.

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Re: UK to patients -- Eat shit

by Fury » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:39 am

Bryan Benn wrote:
truchas wrote:Another resounding success of the UK free health care program. foangryweasel approves.

Yet because midwives don't have time to sit with women in early labour for more than a few minutes at most, we are encouraged to do the next best thing.

We offer them strong painkilling drugs such as pethidine or diamorphine - which is a form of heroin.

Drugs keep the mother nice and quiet which, of course, suits staff.

Welcome to the modern NHS maternity ward. A world of shoddy practice, poor hygiene standards and a shocking disregard for patients' individual needs.


Source


The UK system is not perfect. And the downsides do get a lot of bad publicity these days, such is the thirst of the media to find any big UK organisation to knock down. Such is life.

But our National Health Service does have a great deal going for it. At least so far as my own rather extensive personal experiences of it are concerned.


Don't worry Bryan, no of the critics here will listen to you. What do you know anyway? You only live there and have seen the system first hand. :roll: I've read similar criticism here about the "socialist" healthcare here in Canada.

Cheers my friend.

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by Andinistaloco » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:51 am

peladoboton wrote:uh, i've worked in various maternity wards in the US, and that's about the same damned thing that happens here, we just use fentanyl here, another heroin cousin.


Exactly. Hell, all the best painkillers could be labelled as "narcotics" or "kinda like heroin" or whatever language is likely to make the readers of the article gasp in horror. It's not like f-ing tylenol or motrin are going to be much help with that kind of pain.

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Re: UK to patients -- Eat shit

by Husker » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:16 am

Fury wrote:
Bryan Benn wrote:
truchas wrote:Another resounding success of the UK free health care program. foangryweasel approves.

Yet because midwives don't have time to sit with women in early labour for more than a few minutes at most, we are encouraged to do the next best thing.

We offer them strong painkilling drugs such as pethidine or diamorphine - which is a form of heroin.

Drugs keep the mother nice and quiet which, of course, suits staff.

Welcome to the modern NHS maternity ward. A world of shoddy practice, poor hygiene standards and a shocking disregard for patients' individual needs.


Source


The UK system is not perfect. And the downsides do get a lot of bad publicity these days, such is the thirst of the media to find any big UK organisation to knock down. Such is life.

But our National Health Service does have a great deal going for it. At least so far as my own rather extensive personal experiences of it are concerned.


Don't worry Bryan, no of the critics here will listen to you. What do you know anyway? You only live there and have seen the system first hand. :roll: I've read similar criticism here about the "socialist" healthcare here in Canada.

Cheers my friend.


But if you ask a dog that has spent its whole life in a crate where he'd rather live, he'd say the crate as that is all he knows. No I am not calling my british friend a dog...just an analogy. I doubt Bryan has much nice to say about British Dentists, tho'.

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