Western Alps Grouping Structure
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:39 pm
I have been amused by the excitement (and insecurities) the new version of SP has evoked in many SP-members, obviously concentrating on what is most dear to us all - the potw, revenge votes, vote padding, furunculi (hehe), elves, message boards, whatever.
The one thing I have been bothering about when I first read that there would be a new version is the new - and as far as I can understand - better opportunities at grouping and structuring the pages. There will be objects for group pages and logistical center pages and the opportunity to attach children pages to mother (or father) pages. Putting aside the logistical centers (we don't have them in the Alps, maybe the Cortina Dolomites could qualify, Moni's Sächsische Schweiz Page would be a better example) I think we should try to agree on a grouping structure for the Alps at least.
With the eastern Alps - thanks to Vid's page and the efforts of several members who put up the groups we are in a pretty good shape. For the western Alps however the structure is still missing completely. I remember having read a discussion about this on this board somewhere but I couldn't recall on which thread. Therefore I would like to restart the discussion here.
Thanks to the better structuring the eastern Alps didn't pose too much of a problem. There might have been disagreements (Cima Bocche comes to mind) but they were rather minor in nature. With the western Alps this is much more difficult. The dividing passes and valleys aren't as deeply pronounced as in the east and each national Alpine Club has created own listings, often varying sharply in the degree of detail.
Now for SP I would envision a western Alps page which should be a counter-product to Vid's page with the possibility to attach groups and pages as children as well as link to them with an interactive map and / or links and tables. What remains is an agreement about the structure and I would like to start the discussion with a grouping detailed by Johannes Führer. He separates two large regions, the inner and outer arc of the Alps. I include the highest summits as many of you might not be aware of the (German) names. I think we need more detail, especially in the Valais and Graian Alps (which have already been broken down) but we might start with this (or something similar) as the rough structure. The next step would be to break everything down one step further and the remainder can be done and proposed by the actual maintainer / submitter.
<big><b>Inner Alpine Arc (Main Ridge)</b></big>
<table><tr><td>Ligurian Alps</td><td>Pointe Marguareis</td></tr><tr><td>Maritime Alps</td><td>Cima Argentera</td></tr><tr><td>Cottian Alps</td><td>Monviso</td></tr><tr><td>Thabor Group</td><td>Aiguille Méridionale d’Arvres</td></tr><tr><td>Graian Alps</td><td>Mont Blanc</td></tr><tr><td>- Charbonnel Group</td><td>Pointe de Charbonnel</td></tr><tr><td>- Vanoise</td><td>Pointe de la Grande Casse</td></tr><tr><td>- Paradiso Group</td><td>Gran Paradiso</td></tr><tr><td>- Rutor Group</td><td>Aiguille de la Grande Sassière</td></tr><tr><td>- Mont Blanc Group</td><td>Mont Blanc</td></tr><tr><td>Valois Alps</td><td>Dufourspitze</td></tr><tr><td>Leone Group</td><td>Monte Leone</td></tr><tr><td>Gotthard Group</td><td>Piz Rotondo</td></tr><tr><td>Ticcino Alps</td><td>Basódino</td></tr><tr><td>Adula Group</td><td>Rheinwaldhorn</td></tr><tr><td>Ceneri Group</td><td>Pizzo Tambo</td></tr><tr><td>Varese Prealps</td><td>Monte Generoso</td></tr></table>
<big><b>Outer Alpine Arc (Main Ridge)</b></big>
<table><tr><td>Provence Prealps</td><td>Signal de la Sainte Baume</td></tr><tr><td>Provence Alps</td><td>Tête l’Estrop</td></tr><tr><td>Drôme Alps</td><td>L’Obiou</td></tr><tr><td>Lubéron Group</td><td>Grand Lubéron</td></tr><tr><td>Ventoux Group</td><td>Mont Ventoux</td></tr><tr><td>Désert Group</td><td>Le Duffre</td></tr><tr><td>Vercors Group</td><td>Grand Veymont</td></tr><tr><td>Devouly Group</td><td>L’Obiou</td></tr><tr><td>Pelvoux Group</td><td>Barre des Écrins</td></tr><tr><td>Belledonne Group</td><td>Grand Pic de Belledonne</td></tr><tr><td>Chartreuse Group</td><td>Chamechaude</td></tr><tr><td>Bauget Alps</td><td>Pointe d’Arcalod</td></tr><tr><td>Bornes Alps</td><td>Pointe Percée</td></tr><tr><td>Chablais Alps</td><td>Haut Cime (Dents du Midi)</td></tr><tr><td>Bernese Alps</td><td>Finsteraarhorn</td></tr><tr><td>Freiburg Alps</td><td>Vanil Noir</td></tr><tr><td>Emmental Alps</td><td>Brienzer Rothorn</td></tr><tr><td>Uri Alps</td><td>Dammastock</td></tr><tr><td>Schwyz Alps</td><td>Piz Russein</td></tr><tr><td>Appenzell Alps</td><td>Säntis</td></tr></table>
I would be <b>very</b> interested in the Italian, Swiss and French thoughts and standpoints. I'm talking about your countries...
The one thing I have been bothering about when I first read that there would be a new version is the new - and as far as I can understand - better opportunities at grouping and structuring the pages. There will be objects for group pages and logistical center pages and the opportunity to attach children pages to mother (or father) pages. Putting aside the logistical centers (we don't have them in the Alps, maybe the Cortina Dolomites could qualify, Moni's Sächsische Schweiz Page would be a better example) I think we should try to agree on a grouping structure for the Alps at least.
With the eastern Alps - thanks to Vid's page and the efforts of several members who put up the groups we are in a pretty good shape. For the western Alps however the structure is still missing completely. I remember having read a discussion about this on this board somewhere but I couldn't recall on which thread. Therefore I would like to restart the discussion here.
Thanks to the better structuring the eastern Alps didn't pose too much of a problem. There might have been disagreements (Cima Bocche comes to mind) but they were rather minor in nature. With the western Alps this is much more difficult. The dividing passes and valleys aren't as deeply pronounced as in the east and each national Alpine Club has created own listings, often varying sharply in the degree of detail.
Now for SP I would envision a western Alps page which should be a counter-product to Vid's page with the possibility to attach groups and pages as children as well as link to them with an interactive map and / or links and tables. What remains is an agreement about the structure and I would like to start the discussion with a grouping detailed by Johannes Führer. He separates two large regions, the inner and outer arc of the Alps. I include the highest summits as many of you might not be aware of the (German) names. I think we need more detail, especially in the Valais and Graian Alps (which have already been broken down) but we might start with this (or something similar) as the rough structure. The next step would be to break everything down one step further and the remainder can be done and proposed by the actual maintainer / submitter.
<big><b>Inner Alpine Arc (Main Ridge)</b></big>
<table><tr><td>Ligurian Alps</td><td>Pointe Marguareis</td></tr><tr><td>Maritime Alps</td><td>Cima Argentera</td></tr><tr><td>Cottian Alps</td><td>Monviso</td></tr><tr><td>Thabor Group</td><td>Aiguille Méridionale d’Arvres</td></tr><tr><td>Graian Alps</td><td>Mont Blanc</td></tr><tr><td>- Charbonnel Group</td><td>Pointe de Charbonnel</td></tr><tr><td>- Vanoise</td><td>Pointe de la Grande Casse</td></tr><tr><td>- Paradiso Group</td><td>Gran Paradiso</td></tr><tr><td>- Rutor Group</td><td>Aiguille de la Grande Sassière</td></tr><tr><td>- Mont Blanc Group</td><td>Mont Blanc</td></tr><tr><td>Valois Alps</td><td>Dufourspitze</td></tr><tr><td>Leone Group</td><td>Monte Leone</td></tr><tr><td>Gotthard Group</td><td>Piz Rotondo</td></tr><tr><td>Ticcino Alps</td><td>Basódino</td></tr><tr><td>Adula Group</td><td>Rheinwaldhorn</td></tr><tr><td>Ceneri Group</td><td>Pizzo Tambo</td></tr><tr><td>Varese Prealps</td><td>Monte Generoso</td></tr></table>
<big><b>Outer Alpine Arc (Main Ridge)</b></big>
<table><tr><td>Provence Prealps</td><td>Signal de la Sainte Baume</td></tr><tr><td>Provence Alps</td><td>Tête l’Estrop</td></tr><tr><td>Drôme Alps</td><td>L’Obiou</td></tr><tr><td>Lubéron Group</td><td>Grand Lubéron</td></tr><tr><td>Ventoux Group</td><td>Mont Ventoux</td></tr><tr><td>Désert Group</td><td>Le Duffre</td></tr><tr><td>Vercors Group</td><td>Grand Veymont</td></tr><tr><td>Devouly Group</td><td>L’Obiou</td></tr><tr><td>Pelvoux Group</td><td>Barre des Écrins</td></tr><tr><td>Belledonne Group</td><td>Grand Pic de Belledonne</td></tr><tr><td>Chartreuse Group</td><td>Chamechaude</td></tr><tr><td>Bauget Alps</td><td>Pointe d’Arcalod</td></tr><tr><td>Bornes Alps</td><td>Pointe Percée</td></tr><tr><td>Chablais Alps</td><td>Haut Cime (Dents du Midi)</td></tr><tr><td>Bernese Alps</td><td>Finsteraarhorn</td></tr><tr><td>Freiburg Alps</td><td>Vanil Noir</td></tr><tr><td>Emmental Alps</td><td>Brienzer Rothorn</td></tr><tr><td>Uri Alps</td><td>Dammastock</td></tr><tr><td>Schwyz Alps</td><td>Piz Russein</td></tr><tr><td>Appenzell Alps</td><td>Säntis</td></tr></table>
I would be <b>very</b> interested in the Italian, Swiss and French thoughts and standpoints. I'm talking about your countries...