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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:59 pm
by MarthaP
And CO has the highest per capita ratio of micro-breweries in the US. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:15 pm
by mconnell
1000Pks wrote:I normally bc ski, but the local SC got rid of that.


It must suck to let someone control your life like that.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:26 pm
by Dow Williams
Wolf Creek has such fond memories for folks (including me) only because it was there when nobody else had good powder....I headed up there one time from Taos, when my daughters were younger and that was our family sport of choice, for that reason (powder). At that elevation, you can count on snow and cold. Decent hill, but not worth a destination trip in my opinion. I don't resort ski anymore, but have to admit, I still would not pay over $100 per night for any lodging and I have skiied Aspen in fine style before. I just cannot imagine paying that much for the value of lodging no matter how fast money was burning a hole through my pocket. I assume there should be deals abound at VRBO guys. Way too many empty resort properties, unless of course you insist on being part of the holiday crowd, then what fun is the skiing I must ask?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:36 am
by mconnell
1000Pks wrote:Yes, the bc ops do control my life. I like to have someone around to dig me out of an avalanche, or give me CPR or what, nowadays! Though I do go solo when I was doing that, it's against the bc ski rules, and if no one wants to do this, that seems to say something. You may look at many of my posts, I implore other locals not to be held down by the MLC SC, but I am refused. Rather than head out and explore, enjoy, and all, it seems most will stay home or just not climb anything! I think climbing and all is great, but then this is Northern CA, in the grip of the enviro group which seems to be unbreakable. Why they had to ban climbing, take that up with them.


10 years of climbing, and about 5 of bc skiing in northern CA and I never had any interaction (positive or negative) with the SC. Once, I traveled to a trailhead with someone who was joining a SC outing, but that was it. And they didn't "ban climbing". They have nowhere near that much power. Seems to me that you spend way to much time worrying about them instead of ignoring them and finding others to spend time with. Oh, well. Your loss.

Now, back to CO...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:00 am
by MarthaP
1000Pks wrote:I'm only planning for one day skiing Aspen, so its a go there and return to head home, no extra gas used commuting back and forth from Grand Junction. I am not a normally resort skier, and unless I had a partner to ski the Tenth Mtn. hut system or something like that, I have no further great interest in skiing about CO. Besides, it's highly unlikely that I will get anyone for this, I've been asking and looking for the last 20 years!


You're coming all that distance to ski CO for only one day? What's your problem? :P

1000Pks wrote:I find it unusual that their website doesn't give the one day price, only for multiple days. Do they deliberately try to keep the riff-raff out?


It's not about riff-raff, it's just that resorts don't make any money off lift tickets. Their income is in real estate these days. So for a destination resort like Aspen very few people request single-day lift tickets. It's not that they're not available, it's just not a priority.

1000pks wrote:Yes, the bc ops do control my life. I like to have someone around to dig me out of an avalanche, or give me CPR or what, nowadays! Though I do go solo when I was doing that, it's against the bc ski rules, and if no one wants to do this, that seems to say something. You may look at many of my posts, I implore other locals not to be held down by the MLC SC, but I am refused. Rather than head out and explore, enjoy, and all, it seems most will stay home or just not climb anything! I think climbing and all is great, but then this is Northern CA, in the grip of the enviro group which seems to be unbreakable. Why they had to ban climbing, take that up with them.


Ah, now I remember. You're the guy with the MLC SC problem. I remember because I didn't know what it was and asked.

One question - do they give as much of a crap about you as you do about them? What are you wasting your time for?

And I thought MoapaPk's obsession with Sierra/Sierras was quirky...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:13 pm
by John Duffield
1000Pks wrote:
You're coming all that distance to ski CO for only one day? What's your problem?





Does seem like a big overhead for only a day, but given the right conditions, I can understand it. What price a really great day in the mountains? We flatlanders have to pay it for living there.

For me, too short and too infrequent trips are dangerous. I was taking quick ski trips and coming back with a disproportionate number of injuries. I realized I was "task loading" myself, trying to squeeze a little more out of the day or three than was safe.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:06 am
by mconnell
Last year, top Aspen price was $96. Expect about the same, but they haven't announced their prices yet. (It took a single yahoo search to find that.)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:00 pm
by John Duffield


This is looking better and better. Thank you Martha. Looks like it's about 50 miles from Vail and 35 from Aspen so we could ski both. I've never skied Aspen and Vail only back in the '70s. Probably need a car, though I may investigate shuttles.

edit:

My usual ski bud from college just decided he wants to go after all. He isn't up for $1100 a night either. In fact this is gonna be a budget run. I'll post here what dates on what mountains and see if anybody wants to get together for a day of resort. Though, I may hang around a couple of extra days if any bc or ice climbing is workable. Looks like fly out 26JAN. Thanks for everybodys input.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:08 pm
by John Duffield
We're thinking of basing this gig in Dillon. Is that a good idea? We found a Comfort Inn at $133/night. I think the idea is to hit 4 mountains in 4 days.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:21 pm
by mconnell
John Duffield wrote:We're thinking of basing this gig in Dillon. Is that a good idea? We found a Comfort Inn at $133/night. I think the idea is to hit 4 mountains in 4 days.


Back when I couldn't just drive home at night, that's where we always stayed. Vail, Copper Mountain, Arapahoe Basin, Breck, Keystone, Loveland are all a short drive from there. Winter Park isn't too far either, but I wouldn't bother if you're there for 4 days. (I love WP. I just wouldn't drive there when you're right by the other areas.)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:26 am
by John Duffield
mconnell wrote:
John Duffield wrote:We're thinking of basing this gig in Dillon. Is that a good idea? We found a Comfort Inn at $133/night. I think the idea is to hit 4 mountains in 4 days.


Back when I couldn't just drive home at night, that's where we always stayed. Vail, Copper Mountain, Arapahoe Basin, Breck, Keystone, Loveland are all a short drive from there. Winter Park isn't too far either, but I wouldn't bother if you're there for 4 days. (I love WP. I just wouldn't drive there when you're right by the other areas.)


Thank you, Winter Park is the one closest to Denver if I recall. I haven't skied CO since the '70s.
:oops:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:34 am
by mconnell
John Duffield wrote:
mconnell wrote:
John Duffield wrote:We're thinking of basing this gig in Dillon. Is that a good idea? We found a Comfort Inn at $133/night. I think the idea is to hit 4 mountains in 4 days.


Back when I couldn't just drive home at night, that's where we always stayed. Vail, Copper Mountain, Arapahoe Basin, Breck, Keystone, Loveland are all a short drive from there. Winter Park isn't too far either, but I wouldn't bother if you're there for 4 days. (I love WP. I just wouldn't drive there when you're right by the other areas.)


Thank you, Winter Park is the one closest to Denver if I recall. I haven't skied CO since the '70s.
:oops:


Loveland is actually a shorter drive from Denver, but Winter Park not far. To get to WP from Dillon, you go through Eisenhower Tunnel and then head north over Berthoud Pass.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:31 pm
by John Duffield
mconnell wrote:Loveland is actually a shorter drive from Denver, but Winter Park not far. To get to WP from Dillon, you go through Eisenhower Tunnel and then head north over Berthoud Pass.


I remember having to chain up right after the tunnel. Pow Pow Pow Excellent.

One of the passes, I think it was Wolf Creek? There were wrecked cars all over the side of the cliff. The accumulation of years and years.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:01 pm
by Gareth
I stayed at the Super 8 in Carbondale during ski season three years ago. I'm not exactly sure how much the room cost, as I got it free with reward points. I did make a reservation...maybe like a month or month and a half in advance. Carbondale might cost more, but it is closer to Aspen, FWIW...