Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:17 am
Thanks for that John. Also interesting is the investigation into the response of the Forest Service to the outbreak of the Station Fire during the first 48 hours or so.
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johnm wrote:Here is the most recent and telling article in the L.A. Times about the Day 2 aerial assault just before it went out of control. Disturbing to say the least...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-station-fire-20100705,0,7356095.story
further, here is the perspective of knowledgeable retired insider:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-station-fire-20100518,0,7290561.story
pjames wrote:All I know is that driving north on the 405 out of LAX, August 31st, the smoke plume was one of the most spectacular, yet mortifying things I have ever seen.
Gary Schenk wrote:Rob wrote:Some of the Station Fire burn areas, will be opening on May 25th.
Some bikers from Las Vegas don't feel the need to wait...
http://www.702sportbikes.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33190
Sean Kenney wrote:Gary Schenk wrote:Rob wrote:Some of the Station Fire burn areas, will be opening on May 25th.
Some bikers from Las Vegas don't feel the need to wait...
http://www.702sportbikes.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33190
Morons. Wish the CHP could have nailed them harder.
mrchad9 wrote:Sean Kenney wrote:Gary Schenk wrote:Rob wrote:Some of the Station Fire burn areas, will be opening on May 25th.
Some bikers from Las Vegas don't feel the need to wait...
http://www.702sportbikes.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33190
Morons. Wish the CHP could have nailed them harder.
Why does that make them morons? They weren't hurting anyone. Even the construction crews didn't seem to mind- to the point that the foreman advised them there was a CHP officer at the other end.
Nailed them harder? The fine is a bit over $200 as I understand it. Seems like plenty.
Gary Schenk wrote:If those guys had an accident, they would have sued the state, you can bet. And they would have won, no doubt, on the grounds that the barricades were not good enough to keep them out.
Gary Schenk wrote:Working in a construction zone, the last thing you want is live traffic coming through, especially when the area is signed and barricaded.
Sean Kenney wrote:Sorry. I forgot that road closure signs are just stupid and wasting the time of the CHP is funny. Perhaps if they weren't morons they'd have checked road conditons before they wound up at a closed gate, low on fuel. It's bad enough on any given weekend with the idiots that think Hwy 2 is there personal race track. Yes, they're morons who came all the way from Vegas to ride a closed road. As for not hurting anyone...Perhaps not, but should one of these morons wreck, it will be the CHP, fire and sheriffs that have to pick the piece off the road at best.
Nailed harder? Yeah. Littering can get you $1000 fine. I think wasting the time of officers and ignoring posted highway signs is a bargin at $200.
Gary Schenk wrote:The foreman knew there was a CHP officer waiting for them because probably he called them in. Working in a construction zone, the last thing you want is live traffic coming through, especially when the area is signed and barricaded. The CHP is pretty serious about that. And having worked on freeways and highways, I can tell you for sure the guys working there are serious about it, too.
If those guys had an accident, they would have sued the state, you can bet. And they would have won, no doubt, on the grounds that the barricades were not good enough to keep them out.
Fines are doubled in construction zones.
Luciano136 wrote:Gary Schenk wrote:If those guys had an accident, they would have sued the state, you can bet. And they would have won, no doubt, on the grounds that the barricades were not good enough to keep them out.
That's the biggest joke I ever heard! You trespass and can sue, wtf?! Sweet, so this weekend, I'll go ride my bike on ACH, run off the side and collect some money LOL