Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:21 pm
A sad Mother's Day for Mrs. Ellis. Rappelling continues as one of the most dangerous of climbing-related activities.
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Mountain Impulse wrote:A sad Mother's Day for Mrs. Ellis. Rappelling continues as one of the most dangerous of climbing-related activities.
Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:Mountain Impulse wrote:A sad Mother's Day for Mrs. Ellis. Rappelling continues as one of the most dangerous of climbing-related activities.
When I was a very young lad, an old experienced climber asked me if I liked rappelling. Of course, I responded, "No."
He said you could always tell the neophyte climbers because they still liked rappelling.
squishy wrote:According to the climbing ranger Brain used a double euro death knot to join a skinny line with a thick rope. The knot went through the ring and he fell, he normally used a biner block or "Reepschnur" on a bite to join the two ropes below the ring, but not this time. He was relying on the knot and the rings were large.
This without the biner
Here's another good picture of the method.
Mountain Impulse wrote:But if I had a locker, I would block the load strand by putting a clove hitch on the spine of the locker and that would be the block.
Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:Mountain Impulse wrote:A sad Mother's Day for Mrs. Ellis. Rappelling continues as one of the most dangerous of climbing-related activities.
When I was a very young lad, an old experienced climber asked me if I liked rappelling. Of course, I responded, "No."
He said you could always tell the neophyte climbers because they still liked rappelling.
Guyzo wrote:
I don't know about you folks but the weakness/flaw in this rap system is this: Rapelling with a single line system.
The climber was using a "cinch" - this is much like the Grigri, a devise made for the purpose of belaying not rappelling.
Looking at the whole set up it just looks bogus.
He died because they left off the biner and the knot pulled through the ring.
Simple as that.
The solution is simple, stop using belay devices as rapelling rigs and rap down on both lines.
I was hoping Todd Skinners death would have had a strong influence on the climbing public to stop using these for rappelling.
Sad, truly sad.
Sam Page wrote:granite4brains: You described rappelling down two ropes. The victim rappelled down one rope and planned to use the other rope as a pull cord.
Sam Page wrote:granite4brains: You described rappelling down two ropes. The victim rappelled down one rope and planned to use the other rope as a pull cord.
Sierra Ledge Rat wrote:Mountain Impulse wrote:A sad Mother's Day for Mrs. Ellis. Rappelling continues as one of the most dangerous of climbing-related activities.
When I was a very young lad, an old experienced climber asked me if I liked rappelling. Of course, I responded, "No."
He said you could always tell the neophyte climbers because they still liked rappelling.