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Guyzo wrote:

The Chief wrote:

mungeclimber wrote:didn't realize it was supposed to be a final edition.
It probably will need to be broken up into Norderners and Suddeners for the next go.
Tons of climbing being done.

Why does there have to be a "next one"?

What is with this need to have everything in some GB?

Can't somethings just be kept... quiet?

Chief, I agree.

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We can just whisper it here, amongst ourselves.

Ok, it will be out little secret.

You know what will happen if you tell anyone.

The only reason for another edition would be to correct some of the little mistakes on some of the more obscure peaks.

Noondueler wrote:BTW does anyone know how RJ is doing these days since his nasty accident on Baldy a few years back? Is he still bagging in the Sierra?

I'm also curious if anyone knows how RJ is doing these days. Has he pretty much fully recovered or ?

HJ

hikin_jim wrote:

Noondueler wrote:BTW does anyone know how RJ is doing these days since his nasty accident on Baldy a few years back? Is he still bagging in the Sierra?

I'm also curious if anyone knows how RJ is doing these days. Has he pretty much fully recovered or ?

HJ

I'm told he hasn't been the same since the accident, mostly stays around homes and walks to the park. No more bagging.

is this right?

his judgement must have been impaired somewhat to get into an accident like the one that happened to him

accidents happen to people of all ages. doesn't mean they are feeble minded, does it?

Does anybody know his email address? I'd love to give him some positive feedback on his book. He also mentions vaguely about a few times that he's seen somebody else sign a register with his name, curious about that too.

mungeclimber wrote:is this right?

his judgement must have been impaired somewhat to get into an accident like the one that happened to him

That is ludicrous, a complete Pete fabrication. RJ was fine before the accident.

My judgment is sometimes impaired for the few seconds before an accident. But we're human; we evaluate the situation, and sometimes we don't see everything. Nothing is 100% guaranteed to be danger-free. Most of us are tempted to try the edges of safety.

Secor's accident was bound to elicit schadenfreude. I don't like that, but people are people.

Rj is about ten years younger then I'm. That would make him about 51 or 52. I have climbed with him once or twice over the years (Ibanez-Marmillod on Aconcagua in 97 was the last) and always found him pretty clear headed. This Internet BS is just that. He said long ago that the 3rd Edition would be his last, long time before the accident. I bet he had enough of it. It took 17 or 18 years from Roper to Secor because as RJ put it, it was a monumental work. It will take that and more to get another High Sierra guide together.

My guess is that Robert is 53 or 54. Here is a link from 2006 that said he was 49 at that time.
http://angeles.sierraclub.org/news/SS_2 ... JSecor.asp

I can confirm Asmrz statement. He is a friend of mine though I've not seen him in 2 or 3 years. He's doing okay after the accident and a long stay in the hospital and physical therapy.
He's about my age, 52. Last I spoke to him he had not been out hiking or anything. But, glad to be alive.

In the late 1990's he was hiking in the San Gabriel front range every day for his work out.

He and I used to put on a crevasse rescue seminar on the Eton Canyon bridge (about 3 times).

If you want to post your FA's and route's in the Sierra, use this site or www.MountainProject.com. The web is the new guide.

Better yet, "catch and release" those routes.

EDIT: Someone over on Supertopo got ahold of him and says he is still editing and collect info.

If you are wanting to contact RJ about a new route, forget it. The last edition was the last edition.

Someone else will have to pick up the gauntlet.

Just talked to my buddy RJ on the phone. The above was sure news to him!

He wanted to be clear that he will continue to edit his book as time goes on, and will continue to put out new editions periodically as indicated.




That was a posting over at Supertopo. Guess Secor has changed his mind.

I love guidebooks, old and new, and The High Sierra is one of my favorites. The latest edition is great.

It always strikes me kinda cool that while the mountains change slowly, our understanding of them changes fast. As does man-made access.

I've flattened my Secor a number of times to scan pages for my trips. You can also view most of it for free at Google Books.

I'd kill - or happily pay list price - for a PDF. I suppose I'd need to contact the publishers - The Mountaineers Books.

Would anyone else be interested in such a product? Maybe I'll bump the thread at Supertopo as well to gauge interest.

Cheers RJ! And here's to the next edition - carry on!