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Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:33 pm
by colinr
The Hetch Hetchy movement is alive and kicking a century after the efforts of Muir and others failed to stop the dam from being built.

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_21033628/drain-hetch-hetchy-reservoir-san-francisco-voters-may

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:48 am
by fedak
IMHO, the reservoir has preserved that valley and the surrounding terrain far better than anything else would have.

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:09 am
by fedak
The other thing to consider that a lake the size of Hetch Hetchy isn't terribly out of place in the Sierra Nevada ecosystem.
Compare that, for example, with things like the San Luis Reservoir which much more drastically modifies the local environment.

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:53 am
by Marmaduke
Would it be feasible to drill through the base of the damn, installing large pipe to allow the river to flow freely and to drain Hetch Hetchy but to keep the integrity of the damn itself so as to keep a bridge/scenic overlook for the gorge?

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:13 am
by Diggler
fedak wrote:IMHO, the reservoir has preserved that valley and the surrounding terrain far better than anything else would have.


Ha ha. I suppose that they should have "preserved" Yosemite Valley (suggested by some prominent politician of the time- I'd highly recommend reading Cadillac Desert) & the Grand Canyon too???? :lol:

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:11 pm
by colinr
Apparently some jeep roads will be in the works.

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Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:50 am
by Marmaduke
Is that Jeep even a 4x4? Awfully low to the ground.

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:28 am
by colinr
Hey, what can I say; it's a San Francisco jeep. It should do fine in the early years of restoration.

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Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:38 am
by colinr
It will never look like this again, but could eventually come close if left as roadless wilderness. Feinstein is okay with the view as is.

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Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:49 pm
by colinr
This would go over well:
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Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:34 pm
by colinr
I'd guess that without maintenance and improvement of California's extensive water system, flooding of areas shown on that map would be more common, but it is actually a simulation of an extreme weather scenario similar to the storms of 1861-62. http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/article.html?entrynum=13

The story about taking a canoe from Bakersfield to the bay is interesting. That wouldn't be my first choice of adventures, but it sounds like an adventure nevertheless and would beat walking, especially under flood conditions. He must have had a strong desire to escape Bakersfield.

Re: Drain Hetch Hetchy Ballot Plans

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:12 am
by Bob Burd
butitsadryheat wrote:doesn't everyone have a strong desire to escape Bakersfield?


It was 86F at 1am when I drove through last night. You folks must have asbestos underwear.