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Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:59 pm
by Jerry L
Kristoria............good luck on your climb. Wish you the best. Check out the link I attached. It's about Lonnie Dupre and his attempt at a solo winter summit of Denali.

http://lonniedupre.com/

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:51 pm
by hikerbrian
KristoriaBlack wrote:I had thousands of dollars of down but it was pouring rain.

Congrats on being weathered off of Mt. Washington. Wear that badge with honor. I and others have found that some of the most challenging conditions up there are warm fronts (with rain) followed by arctic cold fronts. It's just not fair that conditions can vary so much, but that's what makes Washington unique Hope attempt #2 went well! Do tell us about it.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:07 pm
by kozman18
The summit winds were 80+ last night (from the west), with temps around 5 below. Wind chill of minus 44+/- F. The hike up Lion Head is head on into a west wind -- the area above tree line is totally exposed to the wind.

Tough going for sure. I hope that you made it safely (or turned around when it was prudent to do so).

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:21 pm
by Flattlander
Interesting thread to read. When I hike in the winter, I look for GOOD weather. So silly of me. When I was up on Mt Washington last February, we had "good" weather--40 mph winds with blowing snow and thick fog at the summit, temps in the high single digits or low teens. It was still, to use climber-bro parlance, gnarly, and I would not have wanted much worse weather. That's just me. We could sorta see about 30-50 feet in front of us, and simply follow the conga line on the way down. Relying on the cairns would have been stupid, although they help out a ton when you can see them. In my opinion, (and I am VERY inexperienced compared to many people on this site) the best "practice" you can get when you run into a whiteout on Mt Washington is to practice turning around (an underrated hiking technique) and heading back to Pinkham Notch. Nobody wins any glory from getting up the Lion Head route, but plenty of people die on Mt Washington by doing goofy stuff.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:08 pm
by Hotoven
Good luck on Odell's Gully. I was there last weekend and it looked mega fat so far this season and fun!

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:14 pm
by John Duffield
1 for 3 LOL

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:31 pm
by Jerry L
Vitaliy M wrote:Didn't she ask for bad weather earlier? When she gets what she asks for there is a NO SHOW?! LAMEEEEE!
LOL 0 for 2 on Washington Hill...Khan Tengri is waiting for you : )))))


Yes, she did, but she never boasted nor posted anything even close to negative (IMHO). Play nice...............

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:53 pm
by Osons
The Mountain will always be there...

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:10 am
by MoapaPk
I am much more impressed by people who hit bad conditions and turn back, than people who go on and die.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:13 am
by John Duffield
KristoriaBlack wrote:
And for the record, I did have a bottle of champaign with me... I finished it off last night with my climbing partner. It was cheap stuff like John suggested. I disagree John, never again will I drink $7 champaign. You really do get what you pay for!


I expected you to spray it all over the summit sign! Not give it a bouncy round trip!

My champagne at the 2 mile mark of the Midnight Run was excellent.

Nice TR and Pix and congratulations on not only a winter ascent but a nightime one.

Bar's elevated boys.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:34 pm
by Kristin5berry
I really hope that none of you folks are stupid enough to look at these photos and get the stupid idea to do this yourselves. Anyone who is stupid enough to do a solo nighttime winter ascent of Mt. Washington deserves to die.

AMEN!

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:35 pm
by kakakiw
Nice Kristoria! Nice!

You would have scared the crap out of the Obs crew when they do their trip to the can.( the can is for precip, not bodily functions)

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:03 pm
by MoapaPk
KristoriaBlack wrote:
I really hope that none of you folks are stupid enough to look at these photos and get the stupid idea to do this yourselves. Anyone who is stupid enough to do a solo nighttime winter ascent of Mt. Washington deserves to die.

But I of course continue to live.



I think we were most concerned about your avowed desire to go no matter what the weather; all the stuff about whiteouts and so forth. When you told us that you were taking a winter mountaineering course in NH before, stress levels went way down.

In any case, GOOD ON YA.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:13 pm
by Jerry L
MoapaPk wrote:
KristoriaBlack wrote:
I really hope that none of you folks are stupid enough to look at these photos and get the stupid idea to do this yourselves. Anyone who is stupid enough to do a solo nighttime winter ascent of Mt. Washington deserves to die.

But I of course continue to live.



I think we were most concerned about your avowed desire to go no matter what the weather; all the stuff about whiteouts and so forth. When you told us that you were taking a winter mountaineering course in NH before, stress levels went way down.

In any case, GOOD ON YA.


x2. Summits climbs at night are normal.

Re: Mt. Washington whiteout navigation plan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:50 am
by Turk397
KristoriaBlack wrote:
I really hope that none of you folks are stupid enough to look at these photos and get the stupid idea to do this yourselves. Anyone who is stupid enough to do a solo nighttime winter ascent of Mt. Washington deserves to die.

But I of course continue to live.



Really? Did you really write that?

A lot of people do solo winter nighttime ascents of Mt. Washington, and no, no one deserves to die while doing it. Maybe bring it down a peg next time you're trying to add hype to the ole' trip report.