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Have anyone Vaude Ferret I Ultralight

bandguy wrote:Tent for sure.

BUT don't waste your money on a $200-500 tent. Go to your local super sized sports store. For me it's a Gander Mountain, Dicks, Target, not REI. Look for a 4x6', 2 pole pop up tent. You should find one on sale for about 29.99 (USA) Get a $4.99 bottle of seam sealer. Soak it down. Good to go.

I've had expensive and cheap tents. They all leak a with a hard rain 6-8 hours rain. Save your money.

For winter camping....Tents knock the wind chill off, but not the actual temp....

Best bet with your girlfriend.. Day hike (winter time) and sleep at night in the back off your full size SUV. Start it up every 6 hours. It's about 20 degrees warming then a tent. She will appreciate it.

Have fun.

I would venture to say that you have never been in a high mountain storm in a $30.00 tent. And for the record, my TNF MTN 25 does not leak no matter how long it rains assuming I did not pitch it in a wash.

Get real.

Three sources of NICE tents:

http://www.hilleberg.com/

http://www.warmlite.com/

http://www.bdel.com/gear/shelter_overview.php

Diego Sahagún wrote:rasgoat, I don't think that they sell Hilleberg in Spain

Wow, I did not know that, You could order it online though, Get a good coupon code for an online outdoor distrbutor and save big bucks. Thats what I did for my Montbell sleeping bag!

I don't buy in that way

I notice a contra about lightweight tents, there are so narrow that you touch the inside tent walls with your sleeping bag. That can be a problem if having a stormy night

It seems to me that you are looking for the impossible: spacious enough for 2 people and 2 big packs but without being a 3-person tent (??), while also lightweight, strong, cheap and only of a specific color or design. Something has to give.

Tent reasons, not necessarily in order of importance:

Precipitation protection
Insect protection
Small animal protection
Increased temperature, wind protection
Ability to sit up and read comfortably (vs bivy sack)
Privacy

No, I'm not looking for the impossible because I have the tent that you say. I know that if I want a lightweight tent it was to be similar to Vaude Ferret I Ultralight

Diego Sahagún wrote:How important is it for you? D'you think it rises the temperature a lot Or is it better for protect from humidity, precipitations and wind

BTW, any good, waterproof and light tent for two Sold in Europe please

I personally find a tent raises the temperature to a quite high amount. One of the reasons I will probaly never take a single wall tent.
I can say good very things about my Marmot Nutshell, my next tent will likely be a Hilleberg Staika.

Cheers,
Peter

Any new recommendation

Would you like one of those for two strong persons

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/bionnassay-t2-6178612/

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/t2-ultralight-pro-6187537/ Cheap and little package but bad conditions safe and enough room

ksolem wrote:

bandguy wrote:Tent for sure.

BUT don't waste your money on a $200-500 tent. Go to your local super sized sports store. For me it's a Gander Mountain, Dicks, Target, not REI. Look for a 4x6', 2 pole pop up tent. You should find one on sale for about 29.99 (USA) Get a $4.99 bottle of seam sealer. Soak it down. Good to go.

I've had expensive and cheap tents. They all leak a with a hard rain 6-8 hours rain. Save your money.

For winter camping....Tents knock the wind chill off, but not the actual temp....

Best bet with your girlfriend.. Day hike (winter time) and sleep at night in the back off your full size SUV. Start it up every 6 hours. It's about 20 degrees warming then a tent. She will appreciate it.

Have fun.

I would venture to say that you have never been in a high mountain storm in a $30.00 tent. And for the record, my TNF MTN 25 does not leak no matter how long it rains assuming I did not pitch it in a wash.

Get real.

I was thinking the same thing. In a 30mph wind, I had a cheap tent's poles break and the material shred. Good thing I was car camping. I don't have any idea how strong the wind has been with my Mtn25, but certainly over 60. I don't use it if it is warm enough to rain, but I really doubt it would ever leak.

I love tents, but if the weather if going to be good, I forget it. In the East of the U.S. it rains allot, so I'm almost always taking a tent. I always buy a good wind proof tent, or one that can handle high winds. I use cheaper 3 season tents because I'm very hard on my gear, and like to replace it every few years and also enjoy the light weight. My friend uses the The North Face Spectrum 23 Tent. Its a 3 season tent, but my friend said its tough enough for 4 seasons. It works good in high wind, but is a one wall. Its very lightweight too and nice because it doesn't have a fly and still very durable and waterproof. I don't know if they sell where your located thought...Good luck!

I'd prefer a two walls tent but thanks Hotoven

More 2-cents on tents: until mountaineering, nothing worked better for me than a MegaMid. My first one (1986) was the original by Counard, followed by a replacement BD. This is a single pole tarp that sets up in a few minutes and gives you 81 square feet of space. No floor. You pitch on ground or snow - your thermorest+foam underlay is the floor. 3.5 pounds with pole. Everyone who has slept in this "tent" now owns one. Super for winter, dig a pit for legs and you can stand up in it. Pitch it, get in your sleeping bag, reach over and brew-up. You cook in this tent, pee in it and stay warm as a result. Perfect cook tent for big mountain climbing. Flaps in wind, but build a wall. Lots of condensation, but it just slides down the sides and falls to the ground, you don't get wet. Want to know the weather, or keep an eye on those sheep? Lift the edge and look out. My EV2 is total protection, great space, but leaks like a sieve at lower altitudes - it is strictly a mountain tent designed for use at elevation. When using the MM we cover our bags with light weight bivy sacs. Bivies on their own are nice until you get caught in storm. Snow compresses them putting condensation in contact with your sleeping bag. You'll get through the night, but not many more without the sleep system wetting out.

Diego Sahagún wrote:Any new recommendation

Would you like one of those for two strong persons

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/bionnassay-t2-6178612/

http://www.decathlon.es/ES/t2-ultralight-pro-6187537/ Cheap and little package but bad conditions safe and enough room

That weighs 3 Kg so it won't low our 3 people old tent weight

I were thinking on the next nice tent but seems a little weighty. Have you tried it

http://www.mountainhardwear.com/en-CA/P ... &prod=3405

We're now considering that one, it's more roomy than the last and weigh less but I don't know if it will be hard winds safe:

http://www.vaude.de/hps/client/vaude/pu ... /index.hbs (Vaude Taurus Ultralight)

Neither I like that open entry