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Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:23 pm**

JonW wrote:I thought about each climber coiling equal amounts of rope but on opposite ropes, which seems easier than making a kiwi-coil out of two ropes. The goal is to be able to move from pitching-it-out to simul-climbing rather quickly, say in an alpine rock situation.

The transition from simul-climbing to pitching it out is easier when the second carries the extra rope. The leader has not much use for it, while the second can stop, put the leader on belay and start feeding rope in a matter of seconds if (s)he has the slack of both strands.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:18 pm**

JonW wrote:I apologize for hijacking the thread, but what is the best approach for shortening the rope when using twin or half ropes (in a party of two). I thought about each climber coiling equal amounts of rope but on opposite ropes, which seems easier than making a kiwi-coil out of two ropes. The goal is to be able to move from pitching-it-out to simul-climbing rather quickly, say in an alpine rock situation.

I haven't done it yet with half ropes but that's how I would envision it.

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