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1000Pks wrote:

The OP didn't say that. I didn't say that. Nobody on this thread said that. So WTF?

Booze or what aside, you better start reading this thread. IN CONTEXT!

You obviously don't know me and have no idea what you are talking about if you think you can accuse me of using any drugs, including alcohol. And you really are completely mistaken if you think an attack on me like that is going to help get any of your point across.

1000Pks wrote:

Day Hiker wrote:The rest of your post does make sense.

Tit for Tat.

Seemingly in line with other SP aspersions to mental illness/debilitation, and given that no one comes forward from this website to actually meet or climb, with the many unresponded (by you) posts highly supportive of whatever (I don't know, I just read and infer), including drink and smoke, esp. this time of year, I make no unreasonable findings.

Wait. You think that text you quoted was an insult? I only wrote that because I had disagreed with part of your post, and I wanted it to be clear that I was only disagreeing with part of it. That's all! That's no insult, and it certainly doesn't warrant you feeling the need to retaliate by accusing me of being intoxicated.

Your accusations of drug use are completely inappropriate. You really know very little about people if you think I'm using because it's "this time of year." Not everybody drinks or smokes or shoots up on New Year's, if you can imagine that.

My disagreement with the criminalization of drug use is based on my opinion of drug use, in that it is a problem that is better dealt with in other ways and does not warrant criminal punishment. Try to imagine supporting a cause in which you have no direct personal gain.

Maybe with more social contact, you would have more insight as to what people are really like. But don't expect that anytime soon, at least not from anyone who knows anything about you. As for those on this site, people here have seen how you are and what you do. You talk about desiring some kind of résumé from people, just to go out and do a supposedly friendly social trip on class-1 to 3 stuff. But even a résumé isn't good enough because your default is to doubt everything that anybody claims to have done.

You make yourself look psychotic when you "investigate" to such an extent a potential partner for a social class-3 trip. You doubt someone's substantial list of summits, as if the person had the time and interest and knowledge to falsify a hundred separate summit logs on class-2, 3, and 4 peaks he didn't climb. Nobody wants to have a history that includes some very significant peak achievements, only to have 200 of his moderate achievements doubted by some guy who claims to have seen false peak résumés in the past, 30 years ago at the Sierra Club.

So there you go again in your above post, complaining that nobody wants to hook up with you for a hike. Are you really surprised? There are all kinds of people on this site that meet other people and go for hikes all the time. In order to achieve this they're not doing anything special; they're just not creeping people out by doing a 1000Pks P.I. investigation of their summit logs. I have met and hiked with several people from this site, and I didn't even have to solicit for partners in order to do so. Just don't creep people out, and you'll have better luck.

Thanks for the tip AlpineAffinity. That trip sounds awesome.

OK, more on point with the suggestions. I think some nice three day trips, with good class 2 or 3 summits are the following:

Mt. Lyell--nice trip up Lyell Canyon and then climb a nice glacier to the summit.
Mt. Agassiz--pretty Bishop Pass area to a summit with awesome views of the Palisades.
Red and White Mt. --pretty hiking past some great geologic features and nice lakes to a pretty mellow class 3 summit.
Mt. Winchell--good views past Temple Crag, etc.; camp at Sam Mack Meadow then cross the Palisade Glacier to a nice summit with great views.

All of the above are easy class 3 with the exception of Agassiz, which is 2. To be honest, it would be pretty hard to have a bad trip anywhere in the Sierra, particularly starting from the east side.

OriginalPoster wrote:- Some snow is OK but glacier is not (consider her a beginner)

R.e. Lyell: Isn't this an ice-axe type climb, especially earlier in the summer? I seem to recall that people have taken big falls there on the glacier. Supposedly, if you hit the ridge lower down, the rock is more like class 3-4.

http://www.summitpost.org/route/155682/ ... acier.html
(check out "essential gear")

I've considered that hike for this summer.