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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:17 am
by jonesa37
OJ Loenneker wrote:
jonesa37 wrote:
these are all valid points, I am merely suggesting that when someone is held in such high regard, with their climbing feats, I feel that it should be based on their own complete effort and not that of a guiding service. Yes what ever you do that is vertical could be considered "climbing" but you are then arguing the definition of just climbing I am specifically talking about alpine achievements. When I summit a climb, for myself it has been through my own planning and preparation.



It's one thing to plan, and execute a climb of some peak in Washington State where you live, and a whole other thing to climb a 8000M peak in some third world country. People usually do not climb those kind of mountains own their own. Usually there is some sort of team, and never in a "alpine single push"... so, I still don't see how if someone decides that it is worth the money to hire someone who will handle all the logistics (porters, food, sherpas to move that shit around, and a few guides who know the mountain) they all of the sudden are not considered "climbers"? Do you not think that all these "celeb" climbers that are breaking all sorts of records on the 8000M peaks are not using porters, sherpas etc. for their climbs? Is Ed Viesteurs not a "real" climber either? Where do you draw the line?


Ed viesters, Jim Whittaker... and many others climbed by their own means don't even compare this woman with those true climbers....

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:30 am
by JasonH
radson wrote:The amount of negativity to a 60 year old woman who saved a cat is simply extraordinary.

Is life really that bitter?


Word. Maybe its time to start passing these out.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:43 am
by MoapaPk
radson wrote:The amount of negativity to a 60 year old woman who saved a cat is simply extraordinary.

Is life really that bitter?


See the comments of Bob S for the similar thread about the 17-year-old Everest climber. She has committed the ultimate offense: casting a shadow on carefully-polished egos.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:43 am
by jonesa37
JasonH wrote:
radson wrote:The amount of negativity to a 60 year old woman who saved a cat is simply extraordinary.

Is life really that bitter?


Word. Maybe its time to start passing these out.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:28 am
by Corax
radson wrote:The amount of negativity to a 60 year old woman who saved a cat is simply extraordinary.

Is life really that bitter?


+1

MoapaPk wrote:She has committed the ultimate offense: casting a shadow on carefully-polished egos.


Yes, exactly. That's what it's all about.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:35 pm
by nhluhr
Lolli wrote:
jonesa37 wrote:
Ed viesters, Jim Whittaker... and many others climbed by their own means don't even compare this woman with those true climbers....


"this woman" ?

That is a pretty insulting comment. Have you yourself managed to do what she has done?

She did a nice thing, and people bash her for that?
:?
True philanhtropy comes without personal gain. She, however, called the news crew and put on a show before rescuing kitteh.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:12 pm
by jonesa37
nhluhr wrote:
Lolli wrote:
jonesa37 wrote:
Ed viesters, Jim Whittaker... and many others climbed by their own means don't even compare this woman with those true climbers....


"this woman" ?

That is a pretty insulting comment. Have you yourself managed to do what she has done?

She did a nice thing, and people bash her for that?
:?
True philanhtropy comes without personal gain. She, however, called the news crew and put on a show before rescuing kitteh.


WORD

"Oh I was out running on the trail and I heard a kitty cry so I went home called the new station first, then animal control, and had my agent write me up a personal statement of all my accomplishments, oh and to rap off the bridge abutment, I will require my mountaineering boots, rope, acenders, helmet... the rap will be about 1m so I will bring my 60m rope...."

Oh and if managing to do what she has done required no funds as I am a poor ass college student then yes in a heartbeat.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:12 pm
by drjohnso1182
jonesa37 wrote:
nhluhr wrote:
Lolli wrote:
jonesa37 wrote:
Ed viesters, Jim Whittaker... and many others climbed by their own means don't even compare this woman with those true climbers....


"this woman" ?

That is a pretty insulting comment. Have you yourself managed to do what she has done?

She did a nice thing, and people bash her for that?
:?
True philanhtropy comes without personal gain. She, however, called the news crew and put on a show before rescuing kitteh.


WORD

"Oh I was out running on the trail and I heard a kitty cry so I went home called the new station first, then animal control, and had my agent write me up a personal statement of all my accomplishments, oh and to rap off the bridge abutment, I will require my mountaineering boots, rope, acenders, helmet... the rap will be about 1m so I will bring my 60m rope...."

Oh and if managing to do what she has done required no funds as I am a poor ass college student then yes in a heartbeat.

So you two are taking issue with the style of her philanthropy?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:23 pm
by nhluhr
She didn't act philanthropically at all.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:40 pm
by TheOrglingLlama
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