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DuckDuckGo now has a !summitpost operator

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:57 pm
by mvs
Hi all,
I've been using the new search engine DuckDuckGo, which is more anonymous, quicker, less cluttered than Google, and also offers a nice keyboard interface (vi-like keys to scan results).

But more importantly, they have a neat feature that lets you run a search directly in an important site. I requested a summitpost operator and they obliged, so in the search box you can type !summitpost Owens River Gorge and directly run the search in summitpost.

Here is me typing the query:

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And here is the page I jump to on submit:

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I just thought I'd share a nice search engine that has Summitpost support "built-in" so to speak :)

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:55 pm
by rpc
interesting Michael - thanks!

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:57 pm
by WouterB
I didn't do a fancy screenshot, since I was too lazy to do so, but you can basically do the same thing in google. Just type in the following:
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grossglockner site:http://www.summitpost.org


If you have privacy concerns:

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   1.      Get access to an anonymous web proxy. A common favourite is the [url=http://www.torproject.org/]Tor [/url]network
   2.      Be using [url=http://www.torproject.org/]Mozilla Firefox[/url].
   3.      Install the [url=http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/]FoxyProxy extension[/url] for Firefox
   4.      Within FoxyProxy configuration, add an entry for your anonymous proxy. Within this proxy, add 2 whitelist wildcard rules, with the patterns:
          * http://*.google.com/*
          * http://google.com/
   5.      Clear out all your browser cookies
   6.      Set Firefox so that it only keeps cookies till you close Firefox (Edit/Preferences/Privacy/Cookies)
   7.      If there are any other sites that may be unduly logging your activity, and don't have a refular log deletion policy, add some entries for these sites into your anonymous proxy matchlist in FoxyProxy.


Ok, this might be a bit technical, so you could also use this duckthingy :oops:

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:07 pm
by rpc
looks like somebody owns some google stock :D

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:46 pm
by simonov
You were able to do site-specific searches with the old AltaVista, too.

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:01 pm
by mvs
Great stuff all! But I didn't explain something well enough. The "!summitpost" operator doesn't work exactly like the google site: operator...in my opinion it's better:

It has knowledge of the structure of making searches on the target site, and directly performs the search on that site. So you jump right to the Summitpost search results pane, you don't just remain in the Google results view.

They've implemented the "!" operator for a lot of sites and I find it useful (for example, as a programmer, the !stackoverflow operator is priceless).

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:44 pm
by WouterB
rpc wrote:looks like somebody owns some google stock :D

No, no, I don't! I'm just a nerd.


mvs wrote:....
They've implemented the "!" operator for a lot of sites and I find it useful (for example, as a programmer, the !stackoverflow operator is priceless).

It has a stackoverflow operator?! :shock:
*leaving to bookmark a duck*

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:57 pm
by catullus
this is stupid. "!" is supposed to mean "not", so "!summitpost" should look everywhere except summitpost.

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:59 pm
by nartreb
Uh, the point of a search engine is that the ranking algorithm is BETTER than most on-site searches can manage.

That's definitely true for summitpost.

Try searching for "Mt Washington".

Here, I'll do it for you:

http://www.summitpost.org/object_list.p ... ton&page=1

(DuckduckGo with !summitpost operator yields the above)

Now for a more useful result:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3As ... washington

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:01 pm
by WouterB
Good point

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:52 pm
by mvs
nartreb wrote:Uh, the point of a search engine is that the ranking algorithm is BETTER than most on-site searches can manage.

That's definitely true for summitpost.

Try searching for "Mt Washington".

Here, I'll do it for you:

http://www.summitpost.org/object_list.p ... ton&page=1

(DuckduckGo with !summitpost operator yields the above)

Now for a more useful result:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3As ... washington


Okay, you have a point, but when I'm looking at the Summitpost database I prefer to use the Summitpost search. That is just me though.

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:10 pm
by phlipdascrip
WouterB wrote:I didn't do a fancy screenshot, since I was too lazy to do so, but you can basically do the same thing in google. Just type in the following:
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grossglockner site:http://www.summitpost.org


This is sufficient:

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grossglockner site:summitpost.org

http://www.google.com/search?q=grossglo ... itpost.org

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:13 pm
by WouterB
I knew, but the added part made it more readable (or so I hoped) for non-nerdish people.

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:31 pm
by norco17
WouterB wrote:I knew, but the added part made it more readable (or so I hoped) for non-nerdish people.


How does more characters make it more readable?

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:36 pm
by WouterB
Made it look like a url?