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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:47 pm
by bird
The Chief wrote:
gobriango is a Real Estate agent.


Bwaahhhaaaahaaa! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:42 pm
by WouterB
Mountain Impulse wrote:WouterB,

I'm not a financial person, so I have a couple of questions. How did you calculate the $16K figure and is that a book value or something else? Thanks.


I'll PM you about this. Don't want to partake in this thread any longer. I wrote what I wanted to.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:24 pm
by mrchad9
Calm down stef. Just a little hard to imagine that if the alt pnp was too much to handle that summitpost.org would then be any easier.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:18 pm
by gobriango
bird wrote:
The Chief wrote:
gobriango is a Real Estate agent.


Bwaahhhaaaahaaa! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Real Estate Agent ?!?!?! I ain't no agent !!!

Chief - Im glad you know what my intentions would be for SP without knowing anything about me.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:28 pm
by Charles
The Chief wrote:
redneck wrote:
The Chief wrote:Who gives a flying fk how much money the site may make or is worth.


Well, the owners might care about that.


If they really were interested in making a buck, they would have never BANNED ME the 14 times that they did!

Why so? Did they have to pay you to come back? I´ll have to try that one. Write insulting posts, get myself banned then I earn when they re-instate me! Good one.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:49 pm
by John Duffield
When you come back to SP from any other website, you have immediately the sensation of breathing a different air. Even in the first few minutes dozens of small things conspire to give you this feeling. The posts are bitterer, the money is greater, the mountains are smaller, the advertisements are more blatant. The crowds in the big American Websites, with their mild knobby faces, their bad teeth and appalling manners, are different from a European crowd.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:56 pm
by The Chief
stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.

Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:11 pm
by Alpinist
Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:30 pm
by mrchad9
stefschuermans wrote:
The Chief wrote:
stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.


You never saw the conversation between myself and squishy about this so shut the fuck up will ya?

You have my mailadres, you may always email me but I won't respond on this subject in a propper way on this forum!

I think everyone can decide for themselves who the cry-baby is.

Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:44 pm
by Buz Groshong
Alpinist wrote:
Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.


This doesn't agree with my memory (could be wrong) of the way things started out. I can remember being amazed that someone could put this together and aquire the server space for all of the pictures without any visible way to make money off of it (no ads). My first thought was that it was a government employee, and that unbeknownst to some federal agency they were hosting it on some secret place on their computer.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:55 pm
by Andinistaloco
The Chief wrote:
stefschuermans wrote:I had a good reason for that, posted that reason and suddenly everybody seemed ok with the thing I did ... Wanne act like a cry-baby both of you? Poor people ...


This response and your outward attitude are exactly why I for one, would not want someone as yourself as the owner/s.

It is very obvious what you would do when folks would totally counter your personal goals and premise.

Nicely Done Stef.

DON'T DO AS I SAY...OK! I SHUT IT ALL/YOU DOWN!

Besides, you'd then probably take all the beta without our permission and sell it to make a buck.



Indeed....

So many people were so sure - and vocal as hell about it - that SP owners and management and elves were doing such a shit job.

And then when given an opportunity to do better, look what happened.

What a surprise... it turned out it wasn't as easy as they thought. Y'know how the elves REALLY got my respect? I didn't hear them snickering about it. I know I would've been.




"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves."

Brendan Behan

Re: Summitpost.org income estimate

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 pm
by Alpinist
Buz Groshong wrote:
Alpinist wrote:
Buz Groshong wrote:
WouterB wrote:Plenty of rumours about this going on in the past. I just found a way to more the less calculate this. Might be interesting.

Summitpost is currently the 51,752 biggest website in the world. The domain receives about 7,604 unique visitors and 43,343 (5.7 per visitor) page views per day. Based on this information, you can estimate that it earns about $23 USD per day and gives the site an overall value of $16,653 USD.


Besides the fact that this isn't very much money, this, of course, ignores all of the years that Summitpost was not making any money. During those years it was costing the owners money to provide the facilities for hosing it. It was also costing a lot of time and effort on their part doing the programming and such. Like Bryan said: "it goes to show that the prime purpose of SP is mountains, not money."

I don't think there was a time that SP didn't have some revenue coming in, except perhaps for the first few months when the site was initially launched. In SP v/1, long before the banner ads started, they had fixed links in the Gear section to some of the outdoor retailers like REI & Moosejaw. And members were encouraged to click on them even if you weren't looking for anything.


This doesn't agree with my memory (could be wrong) of the way things started out. I can remember being amazed that someone could put this together and aquire the server space for all of the pictures without any visible way to make money off of it (no ads). My first thought was that it was a government employee, and that unbeknownst to some federal agency they were hosting it on some secret place on their computer.

Here's a walk down memory lane for you. This is the SP Gear page from 2001 & 2002.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011214110151/summitpost.com/mountains/gear.pl

http://web.archive.org/web/20020321072913/www.summitpost.com/gear/

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:27 pm
by MoapaPk
Snow Leopard would not be the gear powerhouse it is today without SP advertising.

There is a rumor that the elves have gotten a big advance on a book deal.

And of course, there is the REI power points discount.