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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:25 am
by MoapaPk
mattski wrote:they advertise this peak as a hikers peak "the marquee"


OK, one more hint!

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Note how I modified what you did; so the image is now clickable, going through to the larger image. Mr Llama taught us that. Despite all the sniping, SP is a great source of shared info.

Again, you can just hit "quote" to see what I did.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:32 am
by Matt Worster
Actually had renewed interest in this topic when I got my first life insurance policy. In the middle of all these medical questions is something like, "in the last 12 months, have you participated in mountaineering or rock climbing?"

Sadly, I was ok on the rock climbing part (been a busy year), but I asked what they considered mountaineering, not really knowing myself. The questioner is a total urbanite, tells me, "Oh hiking is fine, but have you been doing mountaineering?" He can tell I'm stumbling, knowing what the less expensive answer is . . . but I'm a nerd and want to be right! But . . . what is the question? I figured SOMEONE at that big actuarial firm has mountaineering experience, per se, and maybe that policy writer could define it, but I bet they would be as uncomfortable doing so as everyone here.

In the end, I said "no." :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:10 am
by wildcat024
I also have run into difficulties getting insurance due to my "rock or mountain climbing problem." I called and confirmed, yes, they cover downhill skiing and hiking. But they also confirmed that rock or mountain climbing are not covered. So, at this point, I wanted to see where the line was between hiking and mountaineering. The insurance agent basically told me that I had to "trust them," and that he had no way of telling me what was hiking vs climbing, downhill skiing vs ski mountaineering. He said that he couldn't answer specifics on hypothetical situations, and that if an accident happened, they "looked at the circumstances under which the claim arose and then examined the policy to see if there was a specific rider excluding the activity." As if I am to assume that the insurance company will do what is honest afterwards when they don't even know where the line is beforehand. Just so everyone knows, he also confirmed that sky diving and BASE jumping were covered. I guess BASE jumping is much safer than climbing.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:21 am
by MoapaPk
See? There is logic to defining stuff as "hiking."

Re: what for you is mountaineering?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:54 am
by Charles
emmieuk wrote:I was in the pub last night discussing climbing with some non climbers when I got asked 'when does hill and mountain walking become mountaineering?' Then I realised I really didn't know and the magazines and internet stuff I read defines mountaineering in all sorts of ways. So my dumb ass question is when for you does it become mountaineering? X x thank youuu

It´s all mountaineering! It´s been in the outdoors. There are levels of difficulty and seriousness but it´s all the same thing. You can be just as dead of exposure in the Peak District as on Mont Blanc, in fact I´ve felt wetter and colder in the Peak District than on Mont Blanc!
For me it´s doing the bits of the sport that I like and maybe one should let other people busy themselves with the definitions.
Were you drinking Higsons?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:01 am
by emmieuk
your all a strange lot arent you really :D :D :shock:

hehe

Re: what for you is mountaineering?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:53 am
by dadndave
emmieuk wrote:I was in the pub last night discussing climbing with some non climbers when I got asked 'when does hill and mountain walking become mountaineering?' Then I realised I really didn't know and the magazines and internet stuff I read defines mountaineering in all sorts of ways. So my dumb ass question is when for you does it become mountaineering? X x thank youuu


This is funny (as in we're laughing with you, not at you,) Emmieuk. You got the bug just a short time ago and we all love you for it. Passion and imagination is what it's all about (in my humble opinion). Who knows where your inspiration will lead you?

There is no point in trying to pick the difference between hill walking, mountaineering rockclimbing or whatever. The distinctions are more or less seamless . Of course some people will want to specialise at some point and some will do so with "hardcore" intent - and that's what tends to create the "readworthy" stories of whatever the hell it is that we nutters all get up to.

Welcome to the club.

And it's all good.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:02 am
by emmieuk
nah its entertaining whilst in work :)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:24 am
by dadndave
Now get back to work, you bludger.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:30 am
by emmieuk
come on a girl needs a break every 2 minutues :)

all work and no play is.....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:35 am
by yatsek
No doubt mountainearing is having a pint at the pub at the foot of the mountains.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:57 am
by dadndave
yatsek wrote: mountainearing


"the hills are alive - with the sound of Muuuuuusiiiiiic....." :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:00 pm
by emmieuk
bludger hahaha...I am not poor or lazy....or whatever the silly word means i do confess to googling the term as we dont use silly words here :) :) haha

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:16 pm
by Charles
dadndave wrote:Now get back to work, you bludger.

What the hell´s a bludger? Is it someone (male or female) who drinks Higsons?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by emmieuk
i dunno i googled it and apparently im poor, lazy or a pimp lol

i am not poor...not lazy and certainly not a pimp....anymore ;) haha