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Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:56 pm
by Arthur Digbee
MoapaPk wrote:Some low votes are just puzzling. I once had an innocuous profile picture voted "3;" I just deleted the image and put up a new one, on which he voted "3," so I repeated. After a while the fellow got tired and stopped voting. I never had any interaction with him, and he since left SP.


He thought the REI discount was a zero-sum game.

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:03 pm
by Buz Groshong
I mostly use the scores to determine which of my photos people like better than others of mine. It's not an exact science though. There's one or two people who actually try to vote honestly and they can screw things up: if they vote one of my photos but not others their vote can drag down the one they voted on. Another problem is that mountain photos seem to always score higher than canyon photos and such; the good news is that informative but not artistic photos get good scores. Scores also seem to be dependent on the number of views a photo gets, so a photo posted to a popular mountain page will generally score higher than one posted to an obscure page. So all in all, comments are definitely a better measure.

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:08 am
by Charles
Buz Groshong wrote:I mostly use the scores to determine which of my photos people like better than others of mine. It's not an exact science though. There's one or two people who actually try to vote honestly and they can screw things up: if they vote one of my photos but not others their vote can drag down the one they voted on. Another problem is that mountain photos seem to always score higher than canyon photos and such; the good news is that informative but not artistic photos get good scores. Scores also seem to be dependent on the number of views a photo gets, so a photo posted to a popular mountain page will generally score higher than one posted to an obscure page. So all in all, comments are definitely a better measure.

So a "like" button plus a comment?

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:01 pm
by visentin
For many people giving something else than a 10 is a way to say "could be better", then a negative opinion. This is why we get only tens, like the facebook option "I like". Giving a 10 or not giving anything is a way to be polite (I believe most people on SP are polite as they do so).

In order to improve the rating, I suggest replacing the number scale by a choice of 5 or 6 appreciations (not more) written in all letters, like "outstanding", "very good", "correct", "could be better" (additions & corrections entry needed), "unsufficient" and "off topic".

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:09 pm
by Marmaduke
I know there has been a lot of discussion on the topic of POTD and POTW but I think the 2 current photos are an example of the true meaning to the intent of those "awards".

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http://www.summitpost.org/the-diamond/755740

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http://www.summitpost.org/carefully-climbing-on-the-summit-ridge/755302

Very nice Josh and Rockclimber77!

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:02 pm
by Luc
Please remove pictures from the user's 'power' score

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:05 pm
by MountainHikerCO
10 is basically a “Like” vote. More Likes = higher score. By that de facto standard, one 9 disproportionally drags down the score.

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:15 pm
by Josh Lewis
Luc wrote:Please remove pictures from the user's 'power' score


Why? I feel as though this would bring down members credibility for posting. Example, a good majority of Afzal's power comes from Great Photographs. Although I will certainly say I don't need points to be encouraged to post good photography, it certainly makes me feel as though the point system is more justified. Or else if there were no points for photos, it would make the point system less neat in my opinion.

Although this would help solve the problem of point baggers who post purely for points. :twisted: But C'mon, that's what down rating is for. If you see people posting bad pictures, down vote it and they won't be getting much points if the score is low. 8)

And if your argument is aimed for good photos too, why?

A friend of mine thinks that there should be more points awarded for photos. :wink:

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:29 pm
by lcarreau
Josh Lewis wrote:
A friend of mine thinks that there should be more points awarded for photos. :wink:


Yeah, that would be me.

But the photos have to be good. I mean GOOD, as in super BAD. 8)

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:57 pm
by Josh Lewis
Oh right, another friend told me the same opinion. :wink:

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:33 am
by asmrz
Wouldn't it be just easier and actually better if we could make only one statement on photos? Something like clicking I LIKE

and if you don't like, just keep doing what ever you are doing...

Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:08 am
by Josh Lewis
Pretty much. :wink: Although perhaps like youtube where there is a like and dislike button. That way we can spot our photography haters. :lol:

Am I right haters?
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Re: Meaningless picture scores

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:20 am
by Bob Sihler
Luc wrote:Please remove pictures from the user's 'power' score


That would cut the clutter around here in one fell swoop. People interested in building good pages with quality photographs-- as in useful and informative-- instead of posting vote-for-me pictures would keep posting and contributing. If those who post the eye candy truly do so for the sake of sharing and inspiring, then they still would and could be gratified by positive comments, but I'll bet you'd see a dramatic decrease in such submissions.