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Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:10 am
by mrchad9
Hmmmmm...

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:16 am
by Josh Lewis
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Edit: There is more to this, for some reason valif HTML is not working. :o This doesn't happen that often.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:38 pm
by silversummit
Bravo! I really like the new site "look"; attractive, bright and great variety! Much more to browse on the opening page!

Only minus so far for me is that I can't see the result of my vote for a page etc. The gray makes it difficult. Sometimes I have to click on the "X" to remove the vote and then click again and watch the number change.....

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:20 pm
by Bob Sihler
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY POWER POINTS?

:wink:

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:26 pm
by Bubba Suess
I agree, I think things look good and the voting is great. It was interesting to see how scores adjusted considering how old some objects were and how much their score had declined and now are restored.

A few problems I have noticed:
1. The maps, as has been brought to Josh's attention.
2. The gray squares for voting does get old. It seems the yellow color vote count shows up sporadically but it would be nice if it was there all the time.
3. Photo of the moment has a lot of repetition. I have seen this, this, and this more than once since the change. The last one I have seen four times.
4. The background color on this table lost its background color, which is supposed to be gray or blue.

Overall, I think the changes are moving in the right direction. We just need to work out the bugs (by which I mean I get to gripe and someone who knows what they are doing gets to work out the bugs)!

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:48 pm
by MarkDidier
Thank you to Matt, Josh and Chad for all their work on the updates. Still surfing through trying to get a feel for some of the changes.

mrchad9 wrote:... they must be more valuable now.


My initial take on the new voting/power algorithm, is that it is a big improvement. It looks like the real meat of the site (Area/Ranges, Mountains, Routes) is getting a much heavier weight...glad to see that Power Points are earned by adding more value to the site, as they should be!

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:26 pm
by mrchad9
Post bugs in the 'report bugs here' sticky thread. No need for the two reported here, as Matt is aware of them.

The voting squares are not shaded correctly after you vote, which will be fixed. Not top priority or high enough to stop the transition since you can still see the text showing how you voted, and once you refresh or return to the page it shows the shading correctly.

Bubba the shading in that table is being crushed by the new code. It affects about half my pages too, not sure yet if it is something we will have to fix on our end or not.

Correct... Route pages and articles are worth more, as are mountain pages.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:47 pm
by Redwic
Holy cow! My "Power" rating went down by nearly 450 points!
Some people had a "Power" rating that hardly went down, at all.

What happened?

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:52 pm
by mrchad9
And btw POTM is not currently designed to show a new photo every time. It selects a batch of recent photos daily based on quality and other factors, so yes you will see the same one if you refresh repeatedly. It'll take a couple days to confirm the code is working as intended, and we've already discussed things like adjusting the quantity of photos in the pool. He's looking at bugs and other things in the near term.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:00 pm
by Bubba Suess
mrchad9 wrote:It selects a batch of recent photos daily based on quality and other factors,

Are the batches only drawn from recent images? What about getting some "deep cuts" put up there? Not that I am complaining, mind you. I am just trying to learn how things work now...

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:03 pm
by mrchad9
Redwic wrote:Holy cow! My "Power" rating went down by nearly 450 points!
Some people had a "Power" rating that hardly went down, at all.

What happened?

We changed both the page scoring and point tabulation mechanisms. Page scoring has a wider score distribution, and points actually were increased for the most part (given that most pages have lower scores in the 70-90% range).

I looked at dozens of members before and after. Everyone decreased that I'm aware of, so that is net neutral. Although some by more than others most were in the 10-30% range.

Content pages are worth more now, but people with lots of photos will notice a slightly larger hit. I'll detail more later when I rewrite the FAQs.

Note that you are still on the front page of people as being one of the top contributors. You may have moved up or down a couple spots compared to others but I'd bet not very far.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:05 pm
by Tools_Incoming
Overall I like the new look. I haven't gone through all the changes in detail, but aesthetically it's pleasing.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:10 pm
by mrchad9
I gave Josh a pretty hard time as he was developing the new look. That turned out to be a good thing eh?

Just kidding... He deserves pretty much all the credit. And Matt. I just did some bug testing and made trivial suggestions in comparison to their work.

Bubba Suess wrote:
mrchad9 wrote:It selects a batch of recent photos daily based on quality and other factors,

Are the batches only drawn from recent images? What about getting some "deep cuts" put up there? Not that I am complaining, mind you. I am just trying to learn how things work now...

Recent images right now. We have three spots for photos, and I kind of tend to favor at least two of them showing recent additions. I'm rather pleased the mechanism is selecting photos as good as it is given this is the first adjustment. It may even improve too and some may have slipped in before the conversion was complete (I.e. tomorrow might have more surprises). : - )

POTW is a spot where something needs changes later on. Just to make it more interesting.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:36 pm
by Redwic
Thanks, Mr. Chad... You seem to be the only one responding to questions today. lol

I immediately could tell that JL had a large hand in the changes. Montana Matt and Alpine Josh... what a pair!
It's amazing how far this website has progressed, in that regard. That never would have happened even two years ago.

Overall, I like the new look. I just wish a PM was sent to the SP members stating the basics of the new changes.
I also like the POTM selection, as it should help photos get votes which might otherwise be overlooked... although I would like to know how long the "moment" is from which the photos are chosen.

Re: SP new changes (done)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:46 pm
by mrchad9
I told Matt I'd update the FAQ by Thursday.

But if I don't get to it this weekend I'll get it done Monday. I suppose there will be some demand for it by then.

Although first I need to figure out how the FAQ can give me power points.