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Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:40 am
by Baarb
Personally I would be interested in seeing either the 'Photo of the Moment' or a picture somewhere in another guise linked to how many comments there were rather than votes. Sure you see a pretty sunrise from some peak or other you might give it a high vote but the ones that get all the comments have that extra edge that makes someone want to write something, be it a question or an observation.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:06 am
by mrchad9
It would quickly be manipulated if it were known to be a factor.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:51 am
by Josh Lewis
While it's a neat idea, I agree with Mr. Chad. Plus we could always look in What's new if we were wanting to see commented photos. :wink:

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:38 am
by visentin
Idea: users should be able to parametrize the content of the home page according to some preferences, like :
- Geographical areas they are interested into
- Disciplines they are interested into (skiing, rock-climbing, etc)

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:11 pm
by visentin
There are two major conditions for this to work :
- Every user would need to update their profile with favorite activities. This could be done in the form of a mandatory update next login from when the change takes place.
- All the content would need to be classified more accurately (is it a ski route ? a climbing route ? hiking ? or many of these ?). The current lack of tags (or messy tags) on most pages is in my opinion the most problematic... one remedy could be to allow each user including non owners, or even non-members of SP, to fix tags on all pages.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:41 pm
by Josh Lewis
I like the ability to change it on your profile. I thought of an idea similar to this a while back. How I would have made it is to create a few different templates of the site that are almost exactly the same, but have each template display for each category "climbing, hiking, ect". However this method goes with what tools I have, I'm sure there's an even easier way to create this.

Regarding the community being able to tag: While I think it's a neat idea, that's what additions and corrections are for. If the owner ignores them, it should be brought to the attention of the admins (perhaps a polite PM to the owner first). The admins should act accordingly to missing information.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:49 pm
by visentin
90% of page owners are not connecting anymore to SP. Do you know any elves willing to do that ?

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:07 am
by lcarreau
Photo of the Moment? Cool ... but what about .....

Image

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:09 am
by Bob Sihler
visentin wrote:90% of page owners are not connecting anymore to SP. Do you know any elves willing to do that ?


Do what? I'm not quite sure what the question is.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:00 am
by visentin
maintain unmaintained pages

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:18 pm
by Bob Sihler
visentin wrote:maintain unmaintained pages


Okay. If abandoned pages need important information updated or corrected and no one wants to adopt the page, yes, an elf will make the changes.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:55 pm
by visentin
This is not what I mean, read above. You are describing what's happening currently when a page needs update for some reason and the user has gone since long.
Now the context is : if, for forthcoming SP improvement or new feature, most pages require a better classification by route type (or worse, any additional field than we can imagine) then almost all pages will need reviewing.
Elves can't bear this load of work (they're humans, with a job, with limited amount of free time...)
Picture yourself sorting ten thousand pages by selecting if they are a ski route or climbing route or any other.
Even for usual updates I think the most time goes, the most the elves model, when it comes about adopting or modifying out of current rights system (PMing the owner, etc), is outdated. Except faithful members (we are maximum a hundred), most SP users tend to discover SP, to like it for a year or two, then slowly disappear. I admit myself I have less and less time with a child and a new job...
In the pile of pages that constitute the ecosystem of SP the percentage of pages belonging to active user is getting smaller and smaller... like the emerged part of the iceberg.
There is a strong need for allowing a page to be further updated beyond the current system of rights.
From this there is open way to all sort of ideas...
I don't even know myself what could be best, but I think that there could be a system like any user can post a page modification, and it goes online when a certain number of other users approve it (2,3,5 ?)

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:59 pm
by mrchad9
Propose solutions... not problems!

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:38 pm
by Josh Lewis
Pages that are owned by inactive members can be claimed (this has been going on for a long time now).

However there is a bigger issue, active members who own pages but never fix them. I've seen this a number of times. I would nicely send them a PM, and they would reply "Nah, the page is fine the way it is". :x :x :x I could bring up examples, but I don't want to rudely expose anyone. I can't blame the elves because the page owner meets the criteria of being "active". This is where I get annoyed with the idea of "private content". Personally I like community property. Obviously that won't fly with the SP community. The additions box was my favorite compromise.

Re: SP Home Page

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:02 pm
by mrchad9
Call them out in public Josh. I don't think it is rude if you tried contacting them first.

My desire is that we get some support to start work on the 'page additions' box again, as you indicate. I think that would be the biggest asset to this site as a whole after the previously discussed and agreed to items are implemented.