Vote Weight
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:09 pm
I see a few folks putting more thinking into their votes on object pages now that we have a new voting system, which is great and provides good feedback to others.
But there are still a lot of members out there that vote 10/10 on everything, no matter how sparse the mountain page. These folks tend to put a 10 on a page if it is by a certain person, or meets a minimum criteria, and then just skip over the other pages if they feel a 10 is not warranted. Last week another member suggested that we might put in place a mechanism that would decrease the weight of votes by members who always voted with 10s, that way it would bring it more in line with the other members.
Basically we would have a mechanism that would automatically evaluate all the votes placed on objects, and if a certain percentage were 10s it could decrease the vote weighting for that member. So then vote weight would be based both on power points and voting history.
Just as an example with respect to how voting 10s on everything is not beneficial... last week I put an 8 on the page for Grinnell Mountain. The author is a brand new member, and this is his first page. The page is pretty good, but not perfect (actually the text is pretty damn good and at this point might be close enough to perfect... it looks like he has added to it). But the owner PM'd me just to ask what he could do to improve the page. We had a fairly productive discussion and I noted that with a few more pics and integrating a few into the page to should the mountain and route that he would not only have a higher vote from me, but also many more votes (if someone doesn't have pics on a page most of you that vote 10/10 on everything just skip it). This appears to be what has happened with his page... to date several of us have given it 8s and 9s due to his excellent writeup, but the folks who vote 10 on everything have unfortunately just skipped it (just because of a few pictures). I should also note that the writeups are generally more work than the photos, and I think they are often more valuable.
I will also point out that getting an 8 is much better for a page than someone not voting on it at all because they only use 10s. So... for those of you that believe that a 7 or 8 might hurt someone's pride... don't feel that way. Not voting on their page is worse (the equivalent of voting a 5 or 6). But also... this is not trying to discourage voting 10/10 on pages that deserve it. I've seen several pages recently (especially a few route pages) that I think most would agree really do deserve a 10.
So what do others think?
But there are still a lot of members out there that vote 10/10 on everything, no matter how sparse the mountain page. These folks tend to put a 10 on a page if it is by a certain person, or meets a minimum criteria, and then just skip over the other pages if they feel a 10 is not warranted. Last week another member suggested that we might put in place a mechanism that would decrease the weight of votes by members who always voted with 10s, that way it would bring it more in line with the other members.
Basically we would have a mechanism that would automatically evaluate all the votes placed on objects, and if a certain percentage were 10s it could decrease the vote weighting for that member. So then vote weight would be based both on power points and voting history.
Just as an example with respect to how voting 10s on everything is not beneficial... last week I put an 8 on the page for Grinnell Mountain. The author is a brand new member, and this is his first page. The page is pretty good, but not perfect (actually the text is pretty damn good and at this point might be close enough to perfect... it looks like he has added to it). But the owner PM'd me just to ask what he could do to improve the page. We had a fairly productive discussion and I noted that with a few more pics and integrating a few into the page to should the mountain and route that he would not only have a higher vote from me, but also many more votes (if someone doesn't have pics on a page most of you that vote 10/10 on everything just skip it). This appears to be what has happened with his page... to date several of us have given it 8s and 9s due to his excellent writeup, but the folks who vote 10 on everything have unfortunately just skipped it (just because of a few pictures). I should also note that the writeups are generally more work than the photos, and I think they are often more valuable.
I will also point out that getting an 8 is much better for a page than someone not voting on it at all because they only use 10s. So... for those of you that believe that a 7 or 8 might hurt someone's pride... don't feel that way. Not voting on their page is worse (the equivalent of voting a 5 or 6). But also... this is not trying to discourage voting 10/10 on pages that deserve it. I've seen several pages recently (especially a few route pages) that I think most would agree really do deserve a 10.
So what do others think?