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Climbing around Shimshal this summer, approx 1 month, mostly unclimbed peaks between 6000 and 6500m. Grade-wise probably nothing more than an Alpine D. At the moment there's 3 of us, give or take 1. There are also plans for climbing along the Hispar glacier for a further month. If you think you might be interested get in contact.

Hello friend
I m ilyas from pakistan i can loved that shimshal beauty i think u can said that mingli ser mountain in the shimshal valley this mountains is above 6000 meters beautyful location in the mountains near the shimshal lake i can join that u . Please brief that ur ful plain to your tour as soon as possable

Thanks
MUHAMMED ILYAS
mailto :- smilly_leo@hotmail.com
himalyan_peak@yahoo.com
contact :- +92-0333-3233611
+92-0300-9286004

Hello friend
I m ilyas from pakistan i can loved that shimshal beauty i think u can said that mingli ser mountain in the shimshal valley this mountains is above 6000 meters beautyful location in the mountains near the shimshal lake i can join that u . Please brief that ur ful plain to your tour as soon as possable

Thanks
MUHAMMED ILYAS
mailto :- smilly_leo@hotmail.com
himalyan_peak@yahoo.com
contact :- +92-0333-3233611
+92-0300-9286004

Left Shimshal a few days ago. Was climbing Shimshal Whitehorn (SP page to follow september).

Hey BigLee,
A couple of us are planning Gasherbrum I and II for summer '07. Would you have any recommendations for a local company that can arrange permits and portering to base camp in addition to base camp support. Thanks.
Tauru

Adventure Tours Pakistan (ATP) for permits and such: http://www.atp.com.pk/

Alan,
Thanks! Will check them out. Were these folks pretty smooth? No major issues?
thanks
Tauru

Yeah, ATP are very reliable. Check them out.

Sorry, but I have to say I completely disagree with Alan and Lee.
I have not much positive to say about ATP at all.
There are many better alternatives.

You could also check out Shams Alpine then. It's run by a Shimshali by the name of Qudrat Ali who has climbed Broad Peak, Nanga Parbat and GI and GII and is a very professional outfit. Main problem with the area you're heading is getting sufficient number of porters so a good sadar with experience is often the most important factor. Lee

Corax wrote:Sorry, but I have to say I completely disagree with Alan and Lee.
I have not much positive to say about ATP at all.
There are many better alternatives.

Hi Corax!!
Who would you recommend?
What was your ATP experience?
Thanks!

crazyblindchick wrote:

Corax wrote:Sorry, but I have to say I completely disagree with Alan and Lee.
I have not much positive to say about ATP at all.
There are many better alternatives.

Hi Corax!!
Who would you recommend?
What was your ATP experience?
Thanks!

The experience with ATP is a long story and I'm not so keen on blasting them online. Perhaps I would if I was confronted with questions about specific issues, but this is a long story and I would have to write a lot to explain the whole thing.

I have sent another climber interested in the same thing an email and I will dig it up and forward it to you.
If anyone else wants my opinion, please PM or email me.

Better alternatives?
Basically anyone else if you ask me.

Personally I'd recommend anyone thinking of climbing in Pakistan to broaden there horizens beyond the Baltoro area as there are so many other areas equally attractive that are so much cheaper right now with 10% royalties, no liaison officer and no restricted zone permit (and therefore no trekking company requirement). The Hispar Muztgah, The Batura Muztagh, and the Rakaposhi-Haramosh Mountains for example....