by mconnell » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:41 pm
by Wastral » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:02 am
by ywardhorner » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:02 am
by Wastral » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:39 am
by ywardhorner » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:01 pm
by divnamite » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:45 pm
by divnamite » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:58 pm
by Vitaliy M. » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:10 pm
The Chief wrote:ywardhorner wrote:..... but so far we haven't had an actual situation occur.
Neither has Wastrel..... Just tons of SKI AREA PARKING LOT FALL scenarios.
Regarding the OP, if the above Mammut piece of gear were to be implemented, EVERYONE on the team must be carrying one as with all other equipment the TEAM decides to utilize in the event of a Crevasse punch through and fall. Something that needs to always be in mind when applying all this fancy gear.
PS: Here is a device that has been around for two decades, is 1/3 the weight of the new Mammut rig, half the price, and can serve as the Primary ATTACHMENT Haul Point in the "Z". Of course WASTREL will deem it a piece shit and totally ineffiecent. Regardless:
More importantly, the adage of "KISS" should always be applied to any Crevasse Rescue Set-up Kit. Time and Efficiency are of the essence.
by Vitaliy M. » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:13 am
The Chief wrote:You advise people to carry a wall hauler device for crevasse rescues?
Micro/mini traxion might not be a bad idea if you have one..but any light regular pulley should do the job if you know how to use it.
Both have the SAME specs/ratings for the Camming Spring and Connecting Pin.
PULLEY'S not PULLEY!
You will require prussiks as well.
by WyomingSummits » Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:09 am
The Chief wrote:Vitaliy M. wrote:In the photo it looks big and heavy, but maybe it is much smaller than it looks in real life. Have not seen one of those in person. Just know how nice/small the microtraxions are! Really like it.
Maybe that is why one should first have prior experience utilzing a piece of gear before making a comment such as your previous one regarding the use of it in this scenario.
As I noted above, I have hauled over 300 lbs of Pigs on a single WH on many occasions.
One needs to remember as well, that any load from a fallen crevasse victim will be a STATIC load, almost exactly like a Pig/s on a wall.
The Wall Hauler only weighs 2oz's more than Mini Traxion and just under 2oz LESS than the more comparable Traxion.
Again, ALL three have the similiar max SPEC RATING for the CAM SPRING LOAD.
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