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Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby fedak » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:32 am

Congress is considering renaming a Yosemite peak for Jessie Benton Fremont, wife of John C. Fremont and once 'the most famous woman in Los Angeles.' But the National Park Service is opposed.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-yos ... z2uUf2XtUC
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby boyblue » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:46 am

I've always thought that having two "Mammoth" peaks so close to each other was pretty weird (like the two Morgan peaks further south). IMO I wouldn't object to renaming Mammoth Peak, but there are so many other un-named peaks in that part of Yosemite that are surely 'name-worthy' (and she certainly deserves a peak if anyone does). This peak which is the next peak south of Mammoth Peak certainly deserves an official name:
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Peak 12260 "North Kuna Crest"
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I wonder why they didn't simply choose this peak (or several other impressive and un-named candidates).
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby Trawinski » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:31 pm

I was totally opposed to this until I read the article. It seems that Jesse Benton Fremont worked to preserve the land that became the park in the first place, not to mention that women leaders from that time period (or even this time period) don't get much recognition. How many geographic points are named after women in the U.S? I can't think of any off hand.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby fedak » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:10 pm

> How many geographic points are named after women in the U.S?

Well, there's one less than 5 miles from this one :)

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And from that same map I'm assuming Helen and Eveyln lakes were named after women...
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby SeanReedy » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:02 pm

^^^General John C. Fremont described Mt. Shasta as unclimbable when he viewed it in 1846. Within a decade, as Fremont became a U.S. senator and the first Republican presidential candidate, Olive Paddock Eddy began making her name well known as one of Shasta's early and most frequent climbers. The mountain named for her holds perhaps the finest vista of Mt. Shasta and grandest views in the North State.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby QITNL » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:20 pm

There is some fun reading here:
Yosemite Place Names: The Historic Background of Geographic Names in Yosemite National Park
http://books.google.com/books/about/Yos ... Rs7E7_J_IC

Banner Peak: This name was given the early name of "Mammoth Mountain" by the Whitney Survey....

Mammoth Mountain: The namer is unknown, but this was a favorite name in early mining days when everyone was thinking big....

There are three lakes named Helen in Yosemite alone, probably dozens across the state. One morning I drove from Rush Creek to Rush Creek.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby phydeux » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:09 am

If Congress votes to rename this peak Fremont, then there will be two peaks named Fremont in California. There's one named after John Fremont just south of the town of San Juan Bautista (which is south of San Jose). Its only about 3,000 ft high, and a really whimpy 3/4 mile hike up a well-maintained trail, but has a great view from its summit.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby Scott » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:40 am

How many geographic points are named after women in the U.S? I can't think of any off hand.


A bunch of them.

Gotta love this one:

http://www.summitpost.org/big-agnes-mountain/153304

Around here at least, far more lakes are named for women then men. In fact, it seems to be that way in most areas I have climbed in the US.

Don't forget all the Mollies Nipples, etc. all over the place. Ferns Nipple too. It's a beautiful peak:

http://www.summitpost.org/ferns-nipple/154971
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby surgent » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:08 am

Piestewa Peak in Phoenix is named for Pfc. Lori Piestewa, a Hopi woman killed in Iraq in 2003. She was the first American woman military death of the Iraq War.

I did not know that Mount Eddy in CA was named for a woman. Things like this are interesting.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby JD » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:20 am

Maybe not a specific woman but "Naked Lady Meadow" qualifies.

The Yosemite place names tome warns men against hanging around there, hoping.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby fedak » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:27 am

Hell, Tahoe has 2 peaks named after tits :)

(Maggies Peaks and the Nipple)
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby LincolnB » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:48 am

JD: Maybe not a specific woman but "Naked Lady Meadow" qualifies.



As the book says, "Naked Lady Meadow is a sizable meadow with a spring-fed marshy area supporting a grove of large aspen trees. On the trunk of one of the aspens a sheepherder had carved the image of a "naked lady."
[The information was reported in a letter from N. King Huber of the USGS who mapped the area in the late 1950s]"

There are old aspen groves all over the Sierras with carvings of females on them. By Basque sheepherders -- lonely guys.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby David Senesac » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:54 pm

After reading the LA Times article I too think it appropriate. Always thought having Mammoth Peak so close to Mammoth Mtn only a few miles south was confusing. There certainly are other no name peaks in the current park they might have chose and apparently chose that one because it is prominent from a major highway.
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Re: Bill would rename Yosemite's Mammoth Peak

Postby MoapaPk » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:23 am

I propose retaining both names, and calling it Fremoth Peak.
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