Damien Gildea wrote:So if Borut objected to how his contributions on SP were being affected by their use or by the contributions of others, I can understand.
Damien, he did not give a reason, but I can almost guarantee you that the above was not his reason.
Since becoming an elf just a little over two years ago, I have seen Borut delete his pages and have his account deleted three times now. The first time, and this was right about when I joined the staff, it was my understanding from some of the other elves that in going, he also deleted pages he had adopted.
Bad, bad form. I have seen a number of people go here over my years as a member, elf and non-elf, but I think almost every other person has at least given away adopted pages as opposed to deleting them. A very few have even taken the time to give away their own pages, sometimes stripping the text and sometimes not, but at least leaving logs, trip reports, and other attachments intact.
What I do know is that Borut did not like a line from an article currently featured on the front page. He seemed to think it expressed sympathy for the bad guys. And he was asking to speak with the elf who featured the page and was implying that something should be done.
One day later, a request for deletion came from his empty account. It was not an angry message. Maybe he was mad that there had been no elf response or action yet. Maybe he did not like the page author's response to his comment. Maybe he fell for the profile page joke and took it very seriously, though he had been around long enough not to. Still, one of his departures stemmed from objecting to a Mike Tyson quote about eating children that appeared at the bottom of a forum page.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
I have no idea.
To those reading who were fans of Borut's pages and might think I'm being harsh, I'm sorry, but after three times now (at least), this just gets really old. As I said on the first page of this thread, some people seem a little too tightly wound to take even a relatively tame site like SP. So spare us the tears. All regret I feel is on behalf of those who contributed to Borut's pages and now have that material deleted or floating around in SP limbo. They, more than the anonymous users of the pages, are the ones who were truly burned.
So now here's my pledge to the SP community, whether you like me, hate me, don't know who I am, or just don't care:
If the day comes that I become so disenchanted with this site that I want to leave, I will delete articles and trip reports and other material that is more an expression of myself than an attempt to share beta, but when it comes to mountains, routes, areas, canyons, and trip reports with useful beta, I will transfer them to people who would be good caretakers or to some shell account that will have no connection to me and which I will never use. I'll reserve the option to delete pages for unnamed peaks, but nothing that's named on a map will go.
And if I decide to make a farewell post in the forums, that's all it will be. No Internet drama, no attempt to explode the forum. Sorry.
I encourage the rest of you to consider the same.