I don't know how many of you have already seen this video - I found it quite interesting, I must say! It reminds me also of us SummitPosters...here's the link (as embedding doesn't seem to work here): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

If you've ever seen physics students going through multiple post-docs just to get some half-assed academic position, you seen the movie.

MoapaPk wrote:If you've ever seen physics students going through multiple post-docs just to get some half-assed academic position, you seen the movie.

No, I don't think that this is the point...the topic in the movie is very clearly about people willing to do creative, autonomous work for free, without any reward expectations of any kind - simply in order to contribute something that is their own and carries their identity. Let me give you an example also from my world, the world of classical music. The best example I can think of is Ludwig van Beethoven. Non of the works he wrote simply on commission, out of pecuniary needs, are among his best. The symphonies, the "Hammerklavier" sonata, the late string quartets and many others among the really great works he wrote being driven by a completely different motivation. Hector Berlioz also points out this issue very clearly in his biography.

Negative!

More like this kind of shit Motivates my Ass!

The Chief wrote:Negative!

More like this kind of shit Motivates my Ass!

Good vid, that one - I had the best laugh!

EricChu wrote:

MoapaPk wrote:If you've ever seen physics students going through multiple post-docs just to get some half-assed academic position, you seen the movie.

No, I don't think that this is the point...the topic in the movie is very clearly about people willing to do creative, autonomous work for free, without any reward expectations of any kind - simply in order to contribute something that is their own and carries their identity. Let me give you an example also from my world, the world of classical music. The best example I can think of is Ludwig van Beethoven. Non of the works he wrote simply on commission, out of pecuniary needs, are among his best. The symphonies, the "Hammerklavier" sonata, the late string quartets and many others among the really great works he wrote being driven by a completely different motivation. Hector Berlioz also points out this issue very clearly in his biography.

Excellent point and consistent with my observations of the greater human (which I equate with animal) spirit as well, but at a small sliver of a percentage of the greater population of our species (genetic selection all but no longer in existence). Most simple are not motivated by any suggestion.

EricChu wrote:

MoapaPk wrote:If you've ever seen physics students going through multiple post-docs just to get some half-assed academic position, you seen the movie.

No, I don't think that this is the point...the topic in the movie is very clearly about people willing to do creative, autonomous work for free, without any reward expectations of any kind - simply in order to contribute something that is their own and carries their identity.

Same thing, but with a positive spin.

Here's More Shit that very much motivates this Human....

The artist heart must be shared or it is not art.

DMT

Where would the world be without creativity?

Geez, guess this puts more pressure on me to become more creative.

lcarreau wrote:Where would the world be without creativity?

Geez, guess this puts more pressure on me to become more creative.

I was a cartoonist and graphic designer long ago, and majored in art in college.

Today I express my creativity by inventing and designing tactical shotgun accessories.

Funny how life happens.

The Chief wrote:Here's More Shit that very much motivates this Human....

I don't see this as being shit, I find it pretty remarkable what this Ueli Stecker has achieved, and the entirely clean method he has of climbing these mountains...some people say he has no respect for the mountains...sorry, I don't know what these people are talking about. He climbs them without leaving any litter whatsoever behind - not even pegs!

jschrock wrote:

Hmmm...yes, Nutella used to be a motivation factor for me, but ever since I have to watch out 'cause of my waistline, that falls more under the category "tempi passati"...