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mtwashingtonmonroeUntitled Comment

mtwashingtonmonroe

Voted 10/10

Very nice page! It looks like a beautiful mountain. You're photos are great too! Great job and have a good one!

-Britt
Posted Sep 12, 2004 12:01 am

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Thanks a lot for your comment, but I have to complete the page lacking "links", "book" and some information on the refuges.

Paolo (alias Lupino)
Posted Sep 12, 2004 2:58 am

gabrieleUntitled Comment

gabriele

Voted 10/10

fine !

Posted Sep 12, 2004 3:29 am

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Thanks a lot for your vote.

Paolo (alias Lupino)
Posted Sep 12, 2004 10:21 am

Vid PogachnikUntitled Comment

Vid Pogachnik

Voted 10/10

Thank you for posting one of the most important mountains of this region. Also your pictures are very fine!
Posted Sep 12, 2004 10:29 am

brentaUntitled Comment

brenta

Voted 10/10

Good page with nice pictures and overview of the routes from the Italian side. Thanks for posting it.
Posted Sep 12, 2004 11:05 pm

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Thank you very much for your corrections. I apologize for my dangling English !

Paolo
Posted Sep 13, 2004 8:38 am

Vid PogachnikUntitled Comment

Vid Pogachnik

Voted 10/10

Paolo, I hope you will not get discouraged. For me, the beauty of SummitPost is team work. You see, Mathias Zehring has already linked on his Venediger Group page to your page, so you might consider to do the same. Sooner or later someone will contribute also descriptions of routes from the Austrian side. I wish it could be me, but who knows if I'll ever go up there.



Cheers!

Vid
Posted Sep 14, 2004 3:55 pm

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

The corrections have been fully accepted.

Posted Sep 15, 2004 3:19 am

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Thank you for your vote.
Posted Sep 14, 2004 5:15 am

wuedesauUntitled Comment

wuedesau

Voted 10/10

Hello Lupino,

You have made a wonderful page! Only the name Picco dei Tre Signori sounds strange to me. This is surely an invention of Tolomei. I would propose to set it in brackets.

Cheers

Klaus
Posted Oct 10, 2004 7:16 am

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Thanks for your vote. The meaning of Italian name is equivalent to the Austrian. It refers to the three regions of Salzburg, Eastern Tyrol (Austria) and South Tyrol (Italy) that meet on the top of the mountain.

Cheers,

Paolo
Posted Oct 10, 2004 5:14 pm

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Ops ! The information sent to you is really usless !! You comes from Tyrol.

Anyway, I would mantain the same character for the Italian and Austrian name.

Ciao

Paolo
Posted Oct 10, 2004 5:39 pm

Antonio GianiUntitled Comment

Antonio Giani

Voted 10/10

Ottima pagina!



Ciao Antonio
Posted Oct 22, 2004 10:58 am

Mathias ZehringUntitled Comment

Mathias Zehring

Voted 10/10

Nice page, thank you for submitting this very important mountain. I did not vote yet because I wanted to scan slides and make some constructive comments:



Name:

it would be better to add space to the name, so that the line can be broken:

Picco dei Tre Signori / Dreiherrenspitze

The origin of the name is clear: when the name was formed, the peak was the meeting point of the borders of the earldoms of Goerz, Tyrol and the bishop of Salzburg. Since the First World War the name is true again for the Austrian states of Salzburg and (eastern) Tyrol and the Italian province Alto Adige / Suedtirol



First ascent was done by Balthasar Ploner, M. Feldner and I. Feldner on November (!!) 2nd 1866. They were mountain guides and did the exploration for their client Dr. Wagl from Graz who climbed the mountain with Ploner the following summer.



It is true that the mountain looks nicer from the Ahrn / Aurina valley than from the Austrian Umbal valley. But – as the name indicates – there is a third side of the mountain. To the northern Krimmler valley the mountain has its almost upright 390 m high NE face with some routes up to UIAA V+ that are not repeated often because of their remoteness.



Routes:

There is a great variety of routes that have been climbed yet. But most of them esp. in the flanks are "old fashioned" – too difficult for normal climbers, too less difficult for sport climbers with loose rocks. Because of melting ice conditions may have significantly changed



Some routes that can probably recommended nowerdays are:

-SW ridge, normal route from Essener-Rostocker hut; PD; 5,5 h

-SW ridge, normal route from Lenkjoechl hut; PD; 4,5 h

-W-flank to SW-ridge, normal route from Birnluecken / Tridentina hut, via Prettaukees glacier – Lahnerschartl pass – Lahnerkees glacier; AD; snow/ice up to 48°; 4 h (?)

-NW ridge; AD; UIAA III; with traverse of the snow ridge called "Grasleitenschneid",

-E ridge, AD; UIAA III-; Maischberger, Gelmo, August 1902

-NE pillar; D; UIAA IV+, Peterka, Proksch, June 29th 1931; very difficult approach via the Krimmlerkees glacier



Difficulty of the normal routes:

The difficulty of the normal routes from either Essener-Rostocker hut or Lenkjoechl / Giugo Lungo hut depends on the condition of the steep slope to gain the summit ridge. As long as there is still snow – that should be the case until August in normal summers, the tour can only be rated with PD. Normal route from Birnluecken / Tridentina hut is steeper to gain the summit ridge (snow / ice up to 48°) so it can probably rated with AD. "D" is definitely too much. A route with D would be more difficult as for example normal route to Weisshorn in Pennine Alps!!



finally you could chose a signature pic when editing the page!
Posted Nov 21, 2004 1:55 pm

LupinoUntitled Comment

Lupino

Hasn't voted

Hy Mathias. Thank you again for your contribution. I added your information to the page. Please, check it if you agree. An indication of the additions done is reported in the first section of the main page.

Ciao

Paolo
Posted Nov 23, 2004 9:40 am

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