First real test of my tore MCL..held up well I thought. Good day with Zach as though there is any other kind. Pleasant enough route, but not as good as the FAer's think it is. A bit dirty in places. Several pitches are quite physical and sustained for their grade. We both felt the 5.10d 3" crack was by far more difficult than the 5.11 pitch, although it did have one or two moves at the grade. The upper pitches were on better rock than we were led to believe, definitely worth finishing the route. Rapping makes more sense, due to the tight climbing with packs or a haul bag, but it does take an hour longer to rap versus using the Oak Creek canyon descent off of the summit.