lcarreau - Feb 9, 2008 2:07 pm - Voted 10/10
That is Great !In my humble opinion, you have to start
them out when they're young, so they
learn a better appreciation for and
about the natural world and its people.
I always wondered HOW the rope was
attached or anchored to the rock, and
this photo illustrates that completely.
Thank you very much!
- Larry from AZ
(p.s. - I didn't even know that they
made such a small size of
climbing shoe. Awesome!)
merrill - Feb 10, 2008 3:57 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: That is Great !Thanks for the inspiring comment. It's a chore sometimes but very rewarding getting my kids outside. I'm hopeful to get my 8 year old son up Teewinot in the Tetons this summer. We also spend a lot of time when we're hiking identifying birds, trees, and our latest endeavor, wild flowers. My kids even know the scientific name of the Black-billed Magpie: Pica pica. It's fun to see their appreciation of nature grow. Thanks again. Steve
p.s. - I set a couple cams in a crack on the top of the rock so the kids could toprope.
lcarreau - Feb 10, 2008 4:08 pm - Voted 10/10
Re: That is Great !I love magpies ... always see them in northern
Utah! Yes, children are the future. Now that
I have your attention, what is the composition
of the ROCK? It looks like limestone, which
they have in southern Idaho. Can a person use
this same method (with the cams) when they
rappel down OR toprope up SANDSTONE? What is
the difference between a cam, a bolt and a
piton. Are they all basically the SAME???
Thanks for the information ... SP can be a
GREAT learning resource, most of the time.
- Larry
merrill - Feb 10, 2008 5:11 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: That is Great !The majority of it is actually granite. There are small remnants of limestone and quartzite. Some of the older rocks are said to be 2.5 billion years old but most of it was pushed up about 25 million years ago.
Sandstone isn't the safest, sturdiest rock to place protection on. I've never tried placing protection in sandstone and would guess that a cam might pull out if the rock was very soft or crumbled when weight was place on it.
A cam is a dynamic piece of protection that is spring loaded and expands against the sides of a crack to then hold by friction and is removed by simply squeezing the trigger. Look at REI.COM to see what they look like. A bolt requires drilling a hole in the rock and then driving the bolt into the hole. A piton is a metal wedge that is hammered into an existing crack. A cam is the only one of the 3 that is removed when you're done climbing. If you're rappelling down sandstone and don't plan to return to the top, you would be better off looping a piece of webbing around a tree stump, large boulder, or chockstone, run the rope through the webbing or a descending ring or even a carabiner so you can pull the rope down from the bottom. Then you're only leaving a few dollars worth of gear.
lcarreau - Feb 10, 2008 5:33 pm - Voted 10/10
Yes, your TAKEon it makes perfect sense to me. I suppose
a climber would be more prone to drill
holes in sandstone rather than granite.
And, I guess the webbing would deteriorate
over time. The key would always be safety.
Do climbers actually bring drills (and hammers) with them
into the mountains/backcountry?? That sounds a bit scary.
Thanks for the valuable beta info!!!
merrill - Feb 10, 2008 8:09 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Yes, your TAKEMany ranges are banned for putting up new bolted routes. Most are used in sport climbing areas, not alpine summits.
Ice Man Jerry Van - May 4, 2008 10:28 am - Voted 10/10
My sons and daugter started climbing around the ages of fourMy daughter has been up Devils Tower with me and climbing areas all over America . My son and I just returned from Canada this winter after doing many multipitch ice and mixed climbs in British Columbia and Alberta . It was a life time awarding trip to do that with him and two of my best friends. They do have fun when you start them out young climbing. Best of luck with your children climbing. From The Ice Man Jerry
merrill - May 4, 2008 5:33 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: My sons and daugter started climbing around the ages of fourThanks for the comment. It's definitely getting funner as the years go by as my kids get older and can go more miles and up bigger mountains.
Merrill
wmeier - Nov 9, 2008 7:55 pm - Voted 10/10
Precious TimeThese are times (experiences) your kids will never forget.
I learned to love the mountains hiking them with my dad. Now that he can no longer hike with me, he enjoys hearing about my adventures no matter how small they may be.
livintohike - Nov 25, 2009 1:09 pm - Voted 10/10
sweetmy daughter is due jan 9 i hope she takes after me and has the heart to climb like your daughter this picture just made me that much more antsy for my sweet little arrival by the way thanks for your kind votes on my pictures i cant wait to get back out there
TimB - Oct 23, 2011 1:56 pm - Voted 10/10
Great photo!Very nice indeed to see parents doing fun stuff with their children.
:)
merrill - Oct 27, 2011 12:06 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Great photo!Thanks. My oldest son is my climber now. He's almost summited Teewinot twice, still working on it. There was too much snow on the east face route this year.
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