great page! Congratulations! I would only like to know in the overview where you are talking about the routes how difficult and long the routes are. Maybe you could add a little bit info.
Thanks! Coming from you, I'll take that as a welcome compliment. I'm sure you can tell that I'm not half the climber you are! :-)
I will put some thought into describing the difficulty of the approaches. As I mentioned, it's quite remote for a US mountain, and there are no "easy" ways to get to it. I have actually been anxious to write about one of the approaches, known as the Ptarmigan Traverse, and I've asked Josh about adding a feature for routes and trails, not only mountains and massifs. He seemed interested at the time, but we can't expect too much from him I realize! Maybe I'll write up an outline of the traverse in an added section, then when he adds the routes feature I'll complete that job.
Thanks for your interest! Will you be coming to climb in the US anytime soon?
we have had a discussion about that in the forum Europe ( "groups" and "massifs" ... ) John Scoles gave a very good statement, I think. So for very big traverses, we should count them as kind of "ridge massif" and make an own page (compare Nadelgrat and Jubiläumsgrat), especially if we do not want to make an own page on every peak (like in these both cases). But if we have mountainpages on every summit of a traverse, we could add the traverse to one mountain (like Traverse Vincent Pyramide - Signalkuppe as a route of the Vincent Pyramide).
As Josh wrote on the board, it will be easy to change a mountain-page to a massif-page, you now have only to decide whether you want to make a "mountain"-page (which could be changed in the future to a "ridge massif"-page) or a routes-page on this traverse.
It's a fair criticism Brian - thanks. I have always felt rather inept at writing route descriptions, so when I put up those early mountain pages way back when (almost six years ago now - wow!!), I hoped that others would write routes for them. That worked in many cases, but still hasn't worked for Dome. I'll try to put something together. This is a great peak, and it would be good to provide the information it deserves.
Quick answers for now: To my knowledge there's no 3rd class rock route (or easier) that doesn't also require roped glacier travel. Both glaciers (Chikamin and Dome) have crevasses. Some people use a rope on the summit ridge while others don't. I didn't use a rope for the summit ridge on either trip, but we did rope up on the Dome and Chikamin glaciers. The summit ridge is 3rd class rock. -Bob
Rahel Maria Liu - Jan 19, 2002 10:57 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentHi Robert,
great page! Congratulations! I would only like to know in the overview where you are talking about the routes how difficult and long the routes are. Maybe you could add a little bit info.
Regards, Rahel
Bob Bolton - Jan 19, 2002 11:16 pm - Hasn't voted
Untitled CommentThanks! Coming from you, I'll take that as a welcome compliment. I'm sure you can tell that I'm not half the climber you are! :-)
I will put some thought into describing the difficulty of the approaches. As I mentioned, it's quite remote for a US mountain, and there are no "easy" ways to get to it. I have actually been anxious to write about one of the approaches, known as the Ptarmigan Traverse, and I've asked Josh about adding a feature for routes and trails, not only mountains and massifs. He seemed interested at the time, but we can't expect too much from him I realize! Maybe I'll write up an outline of the traverse in an added section, then when he adds the routes feature I'll complete that job.
Thanks for your interest! Will you be coming to climb in the US anytime soon?
Bob
Rahel Maria Liu - Jan 20, 2002 8:24 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentHi Bob,
we have had a discussion about that in the forum Europe ( "groups" and "massifs" ... ) John Scoles gave a very good statement, I think. So for very big traverses, we should count them as kind of "ridge massif" and make an own page (compare Nadelgrat and Jubiläumsgrat), especially if we do not want to make an own page on every peak (like in these both cases). But if we have mountainpages on every summit of a traverse, we could add the traverse to one mountain (like Traverse Vincent Pyramide - Signalkuppe as a route of the Vincent Pyramide).
As Josh wrote on the board, it will be easy to change a mountain-page to a massif-page, you now have only to decide whether you want to make a "mountain"-page (which could be changed in the future to a "ridge massif"-page) or a routes-page on this traverse.
Regards, Rahel
Dean - Dec 24, 2002 8:27 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentExcellent page of one of the most beautiful mountains in the cascades and one of the most unknown ones.
kletterwebbi - Jan 23, 2003 4:29 am - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentInteresting mountain, good page.
vertx - Mar 19, 2004 9:15 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentWell done again! And with a signature photo!
Scott - Apr 15, 2004 7:32 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentAwsome page with awsome photos.
BobSmith - May 21, 2004 9:01 pm - Voted 10/10
Untitled CommentGreat page.
Brian Jenkins - Feb 7, 2007 5:08 pm - Voted 10/10
This is a great page, Bob....but it sure could use a detailed route page. What grade of climb? need to rope up on the glacier, etc? Let me know if you add it sometime. Thanks!
Bob Bolton - Feb 7, 2007 11:56 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: This is a great page, Bob....It's a fair criticism Brian - thanks. I have always felt rather inept at writing route descriptions, so when I put up those early mountain pages way back when (almost six years ago now - wow!!), I hoped that others would write routes for them. That worked in many cases, but still hasn't worked for Dome. I'll try to put something together. This is a great peak, and it would be good to provide the information it deserves.
Quick answers for now: To my knowledge there's no 3rd class rock route (or easier) that doesn't also require roped glacier travel. Both glaciers (Chikamin and Dome) have crevasses. Some people use a rope on the summit ridge while others don't. I didn't use a rope for the summit ridge on either trip, but we did rope up on the Dome and Chikamin glaciers. The summit ridge is 3rd class rock. -Bob