Right on, more like $.80 cents if the page is $1.00 :D.
Okay I will find the German system too, though I hadn't heard of it. I'll work on that tomorrow afternoon - in the morning is a ski tour :))
Great page. Here is another source you can leverage from. It includes a nice table with various other systems. It'a PDF file from the AAC:
International Grade Comparison Chart
Thanks Nelson it looks like a good source! I finally finished the Alpine Grade section. Let's all go climb an ED4 now :-)
After ED follows ABO = "abominable"
for example: Petit Dru - Harlin/Robbins-Route
One of the best I have seen for a while. There was a realy good german one (in german of course and long out of print) which did much the same job
Thank you! Hey, your profile is very interesting. I'll have to hit you up for some good climb ideas in the alps this summer.
and well done.
This is really helpful, I have always been able to understand the Yosemite decimal system, but the others were a bit of an enigma to me. This is a great reference page, thanks a lot!
Cool, glad it's been useful Jordan!
putting this up. Perhaps you could add the Water Ice (WI) and Alpine Ice(AI) grades here too?
It's a good idea, I will do that when I return from vacation, thx!
I've found here (http://www.theuiaa.org/guidebook_standards.html - left and below) that there is no grades II+ and III- for the UIAA. I think that you have included them in your table for comparing with the Yosemite grades but I thought I had to say you.
Nice, good site. I removed those two grades, especially since I had no comments for them anyway. Thx again, all the best!
for 2° UIAA - maybe better to explain that 3 point climbing means that one can move only one hand or one foot a time so : 3 fixed point climbing
... somebody intended it as "using" one hand :)
Thanks Gabriele, I added some explanatory text there.
I look at some European mountains sometimes and always pull my hair out trying to figure out the difficulty :-). Kind of funny since I am from Europe but only know the US system.
You might be interested to know that contributors to camptocamp.org published an article explaining the alpine grade. I just translated it to english: http://www.camptocamp.org/articles/188413/en
I was going to give you compliments on what a complete and effective set of comparisons you've made in the rating charts, giving real-world examples of how the confusing grade matrices apply to actual locations and climbs, but then I noticed that you'd totally missed out on the most important grading system of all!
Gentlemen, you've both forgotten your Washington roots! How can I compliment this page on its thoroughness when you have not included the dreaded bushwhack grading system? The horror! You, sirs, are slackers, clearly not worthy of my 10/10 vote. Harumph!
Har! As Beckey said once of Washington's brushiest (and hardest) mountain climbs, "too many Green Spirits." :D
Always wondered why so many systems, guess we need world wide simplification. since modern mountaineering began in Europe, I give their effluent ways the nod....
Gret article, thanks for putting it together 10/10