Hasta Siempre

Page Type Page Type: Route
Location Lat/Lon: 45.51531°N / 7.34076°E
Additional Information Route Type: Sport Climbing
Seasons Season: Summer
Additional Information Time Required: A long day
Additional Information Rock Difficulty: 5.10c (YDS)
Additional Information Difficulty: TD sup., 6c (French Scale)
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Geographical classification: Western Alps > Graie Alps > Gran Paradiso Group > Gran Paradiso Group Southern Sector > Monte Nero > Hasta Siempre

Hasta Siempre


Piantonetto is the rocky heart of the Gran Paradiso group, with beautiful steep granite walls and peaks. Monte Nero is one of these latters, an attractive pyramidal peak - quite rocky - lying inside the Piantonetto area, on the Canavese side of Gran Paradiso Group, Subgroup Roccia Viva-Apostoli, a wild and protected milieu situated fully inside the Italian territory, between Aosta Valley in Northern Side and Piemonte (Canavese) in Southern Side. 

Monte Nero
Monte Nero

A superb route on high quality gneiss is running on Monte Nero East Face, "Hasta Siempre", a great climb with some hard moves and some exciting pitches. A challenging route, notwithstanding its continuity is interrupted by a stripe of sloping slabs in the central section. In summer the route gets the sun till midday.

Bivacco Carpano
Bivacco Carpano










Monte Nero dominates the  Bivacco "Gino Carpano" with its 400 m. high East Face, in a superb setting. The approach is rather long, so definitely you won't find crowds of climbers!

Getting There

Road access

From Turin reach Courgnè and Pont Canavese mt. 461; from here follow Orco Valley as far as Rosone mt. 715 (Km. 16,5 from Pont Canavese). A bit after Rosone leave the main road and follow on the right-hand side the road rising along Piantonetto Valley and reaching Teleccio artificial Lake mt.1917.


Lake of Teleccio...
Lake of Teleccio
Sea-Clouds over Teleccio Lake
Sea-Clouds on Teleccio Lake

Walking Approach

From Teleccio Lake (Dam, artificial lake) follow the road running along the right shore of the lake, then a steep path rising to the Rifugio Pontese (40 minutes from the parking). From here follow a trail crossing all the plain, Pian delle Muande. After leaving Teleccio Muanda on the left-hand side cross some streams; from here there are two different routes to get the Bivacco Carpano:

- by walking along a large gully on the right hand-side, then crossing  the gully towards left to reach the bivouac (easier but longer) – 2 hours from Pontese Hut

- by climbing on the left a steep rocky gully equipped with some fixed ropes,  rising straightly to the bivouac (shorter but involving some climbing sections) - 1,40 hours from Pontese Hut.

From “Gino Carpano Bivouac” mt. 2865 – 2 hours from Pontese Hut – a short walk rising along stones and little snow-fields leads to the base of the peak. Hasta Siempre is running in the central part of the triangular cliff, near the central and not well-defined SE ridge, which divides the East Face on the right and South Face on the left. In fact the face seems an only face if seen from the bivouac, being really a two-side cliff.

Hasta Siempre report

Hasta Siempre

Summit altitude: m. 3422
Difficulty: TD sup., F6c max.
Equipment: bolts
Climbing length: 490 m
Exposure: E
First ascent: Manlio Motto and Rocco Sansano august 1997
Starting point: “Gino Carpano Bivouac” m. 2865
Hut: Pontese Hut m. 2200

Carpano Bivouac - Monte Nero
Bivacco Carpano
Hanging stance along Hasta Siempre upper pitches, Monte Nero
Hanging belay along Hasta Siempre upper pitches



Hasta Siempre report - French Scale

The starting point is in the lower point of the cliff; quite next to SE ridge is running “Man in black”, while “Hasta siempre” starts on the right-hand side of this route.

L1 – Straightly up with athletic climb along some overhanging walls following one another. 6b, 45 m
L2 – A bit easier reddish wall, then an hard flake leading to the belay. 5c, 6b, 40 m
L3 – Climb a slab, an overhanging little step, then an easier dihedral-crack. 6a, 4c, 35 m
L4 – Climb another slab, then cross a ledge and go up following some steep short walls. 4c, 43 m
L5 – Another slab, then a crack. 4b. 35 m
L6 – A steep step, a corner and an overhanging short wall leading to the beginning of central slope slabs. 5c, 6a+, 32 m







Hasta Siempre - On central slabs approaching summit building (Monte Nero)
On the middle slabs heading to the steep summit wall
On the top of Monte Nero  missing inside the southern fog
On the summit surrounded by the typical mists



L7-L8 – Climb the stripe of easy slabs and the central step which divides them into a lower and an upper part. 3b, 4a, 72 m
L9 – An other short wall and another sloping slab lead to a belay below a great overhanging step cut by a thin crack. Climb the crack, reaching a belay under the summit building. 5b, then 6a. 40 m
L10 – Climb an hard steep wall – crux - then a fine grey wall with sharp holds. 6c, 6b, 22 m
L11 – Climb a ramp, then an hard crack leading to a steep wall with good holds, ending to a good stance. 6b+, 5c, 28 m
L12 – A reddish crack and a corner with a big flake lead to a huge wall crossed by two roofs following one another. Climb the wall and the two roofs – the first one is the harder – gaining a belay. 6b, 50 mt.

Hasta Siempre abseils, Monte Nero
Hasta Siempre abseils

L13 – Climb a corner reaching a stance. 4b, 27 m
L14 – Easy rocks lead to the summit signal.

Descent: 13 abseils along the route

Red Tape

P.N.G.P. - Gran Paradiso National Park logo
P.N.G.P. - Gran Paradiso National Park logo



There are no fees or permits needed to climb Monte Nero. The peak is located inside Parco Nazionale del Gran Paradiso, established in 1922, one of most important National Parks in Italy. You should take care of nature as usual within the boundaries of all the natural parks. Free camping is not allowed and fires are strictly forbidden. The whole fauna and flora are protected. Don’t disturb fauna and other mountaineers' peacefulness with every kind of noise.

Huts and Bivouacs

Pontese Hut
Rifugio Pontese
Monte Nero - Carpano Bivouac
Bivacco Carpano



Bivacco Gino Carpano 2865 m

Rifugio Pontese 2200 m 





Essential Gear

Rope 2 x 50, 10 expresses, helmet, some friends and excentrics, slings.

Climbing grades

Rock Climbing Rating Systems
1 5.2 I 6b 5.10c VII- 7c+ 5.12d IX
2 5.3 II 6b+ 5.10d VII 8a 5.13a/5.13b IX+/X-
3 5.4 III 6c 5.11a VII+ 8a+ 5.13c X-
4 5.5 IV 6c+ 5.11b VII+/VIII- 8b 5.13d X
5a 5.6 V- 7a 5.11c VIII- 8b+ 5.14a X+
5b 5.7 V/V+ 7a+ 5.11d VIII 8c 5.14b X+/XI-
5c 5.8 VI- 7b 5.12a VIII+ 8c+ 5.14c XI-
6a 5.9 VI/VI+ 7b+ 5.12b VIII+/IX- 9a 5.14d XI
6a+ 5.10a/5.10b VI+/VII- 7c 5.12c IX- 9a+ 5.15a XI+


 When to climb

Best months are July, August and September.


Meteo Regione Piemonte
Meteo Alpi

Guidebooks and maps


Gran Paradiso Climbing Guidebook
Gran Paradiso map 1.25.000
Gran Paradiso map 1:50.000

"Rock Paradise – Classic, modern and sportive climbing in Gran Paradiso valleys” by Maurizio Oviglia Ed. Versante Sud 2000

Maps “Gran Paradiso - La Grivola - Cogne” – IGC 101 1:25.000 "Il Parco Nazionale del Gran Paradiso" - IGC 3 1:50.000



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