birdny - Jul 25, 2007 8:19 pm - Hasn't voted
It's a ...Ok I'm not sure exactly which species, but it is in the family of Flycatchers
donhaller3 - Jul 25, 2007 8:35 pm - Hasn't voted
Suggest Say's PhoebeWhich is a flycatcher. I'm guessing the dark "markings" on the lower front are ruffled feathers.
Arthur Digbee - Jul 26, 2007 10:36 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Suggest Say's PhoebeFlycatcher family seems reasonable. But it doesn't really match this:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/framlst/i4570id.html
because of the crest.
This seems closer
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Says_Phoebe_dtl.html
Thanks for your suggestions!
donhaller3 - Jul 26, 2007 11:46 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Suggest Say's PhoebeHi.
My thoughts,FWIW:
The crest, in the birds I've seen, isn't always apparent.
The underside wash is also frequently much less obvious than the field guide pictures, at least in my SE Oregon experience.
It seemed a better fit than any other western flycatcher.
This is about the limit of usefulness my own thoughts.
BUT. if it is allowable, I could post this page address to OBOL, a listserve that is habitat for an almost raptorial collection of advanced amateur and professional ornithological types.
Is that desirable? It's your page and I like the page. Your wish is my command.
Arthur Digbee - Jul 26, 2007 12:41 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Suggest Say's PhoebeSure, I'd be grateful for the OBOL post. Thanks! arthur
donhaller3 - Jul 26, 2007 1:36 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Suggest Say's PhoebeWilldo this evening, has to be from home.
Brood patch is good.
birdny - Jul 26, 2007 11:42 am - Hasn't voted
I agreeMy initial idea after stating it was a flycatcher was that it was a Say's Phoebe. The dark patch across the belly might be a worn brood patch indicating this as a female who has recently been on eggs, but I'm not sure on that. It is however worn there not ruffled feathers.
donhaller3 - Jul 27, 2007 2:16 am - Hasn't voted
Posted address to OBOL as requestedWill relay comments over the next couple of days.
One could monitor directly most easily at:
http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/OBOL.html#1185429753
BTW most states have similar listservers, many of which are indexed on birdingonthe.net
donhaller3 - Jul 28, 2007 12:14 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Posted address to OBOL as requestedFour replies from OBOL, Say's Phoebe is consensus. Secondary suggestion female Vermillon Flycatcher, with caveat that it would be outside of normal range.
Observers responding would be familiar with Say's, a common E Oregon bird.
There is apparently no online checklist for Dinosaur.
BTW, the female Vermillon should have had faint streaks, which the one in the photo doesn't have.
I think this is as close as we're going to get.
Arthur Digbee - Jul 28, 2007 9:19 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Posted address to OBOL as requestedSuper, thanks very much!
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