Bob Bolton - Jan 11, 2004 10:16 am - Hasn't voted
Is Horseshoe Peak visible?I'm not sure which point on Ripsaw Ridge is considered to be Horseshoe Peak. Can it be seen in this photo, or is it hidden by the cloud? Based on Topo! Washington and Topozone.com, it seems that the visible peak might be the one labeled Horseshoe Peak . Also, what is the rating on the easiest route? If the visible peak is it, it doesn't look too "bad". I'm intrigued by Beckey's comment: "Current maps label "Horseshoe Pk." (8440'+) on the ridge; this is fatuous -- none of the spires should be called peaks, as they are such obviously subsidiary summits." So what is the rationale for it being included in the Washington highest 100 list? What is its prominence?
Klenke - Jan 11, 2004 5:59 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Is Horseshoe Peak visible?I'm not absolutely positive, but I think the nub that is visible is indeed Horseshoe Peak. See also this photo. The caption for that photo was based on Mr. Roper info. In fact, I inquired with him if the caption for that other photo was correct. He said that it was and gave me additional info ("The Nails"). I'll send him an email to verify that that is actually Horseshoe Peak visible. According to Howbert's page for the Cascade Pass Quad, its prominence is a mere 80 ft. As to why it was included in the Bulger Top 100 list, you'll have to ask the Bulgers themselves. It certainly would not count in my list (and it doesn't in Roper's "clean 400" list).
drjwr - Jan 11, 2004 9:33 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Is Horseshoe Peak visible?Yes, the nub in Paul's photo is what the 1963 7.5' USGS Cascade Pass quad has labeled as "Horseshoe Peak" 8480+. However this location is due a cartographic error which shifted the words east to this point and off of the intended Horseshoe Peak as noted on the 1962 Mt.Baker National Forest planimetric map (1/2 inch to the mile). The "real" Horseshoe Peak is the double-summited, horseshoe-shaped peak in the middle of the ridge above central Horseshoe Basin.
"Fatuous" (Beckey's term) Horseshoe Peak is on the Bulger Top 100 list by virtue of its combination of height and named status on the current map (a flaw in an otherwise great list which is based on a 400-foot prominence rule).
Bob Bolton - Jan 11, 2004 11:27 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Is Horseshoe Peak visible?The Bulger List shows the 8480+, so I guess you must have dont that one as opposed to the originally intended horseshoe-shaped peak? Or did you do them both? What would you say is the rating of the easiest route on the "new" 8480+ nub?
drjwr - Jan 12, 2004 1:17 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Is Horseshoe Peak visible?We did them both. The original Horseshoe is more difficult, but better rock. "Fatuous" 8480+ is an accident waiting to happen. The rappel is off a loose pile of rocks. Both are mid class 5.
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