North Emmons (13,068)

Last glance at the peak from from Atwood Trail below Roberts Pass. 10/29/08 4 pm

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yatsek

yatsek - Jan 28, 2009 12:54 pm - Voted 10/10

wildlife

I like the flora. Any grizzlies/cougars/wolves?

Dmitry Pruss

Dmitry Pruss - Jan 28, 2009 1:09 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: wildlife

Grizzlies and wolves are extint and most likely so is lynx. Almost the whole range is a sheep / horse pasture in summer so large predators can't be too visible. Now in late fall, there already isn't a human being for dozens of miles.

yatsek

yatsek - Jan 28, 2009 1:22 pm - Voted 10/10

wilderness

Last part's fine. Were the big predators eradicated by the sheep/horse breeders?

Dmitry Pruss

Dmitry Pruss - Jan 28, 2009 5:30 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: wilderness

Maybe. Or maybe by cattlemen or hunters. Herding is "granfathered" in the congressional wilderness designation but in practice only some sheepherding operations still continue to use this clause. But there is a lot of recreational activity in summer, especially fishing.

lcarreau

lcarreau - Jan 28, 2009 10:18 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

The "lack of predators" seems to be evidenced
by the vast number of moose in the area.

Whoever it was that eradicated grizz and the
wolves evidently failed with the coyotes.
The last time I visited in summer, I saw a
coyote chasing a deer.

yatsek

yatsek - Jan 29, 2009 12:44 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

Talking of moose, does it ever happen that the bulls charge at people and get injured/killed? (BTW The kind we have here in Poland or Scandinavia, a bit smaller, is called the elk by the Brits)

lcarreau

lcarreau - Jan 29, 2009 1:05 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

I believe there were incidents where the bull
moose sensed hikers invading its territory.
However, it's usually the people who get
injured/killed, not the moose.

yatsek

yatsek - Jan 29, 2009 1:48 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

LOL Another miss of mine, I often miss words:)
Has anybody ever been killed by a bull moose?

Dmitry Pruss

Dmitry Pruss - Jan 29, 2009 6:13 pm - Hasn't voted

Re: wilderness

Of course, and by cow moose guarding calves too. The last serious accident I remember in local mountains happened a couple years back in Toll Canyon on the outskirts of Park City. The victim survived because the moose kept hitting the avalanche shovel in his pack as he lay face down, and not so much the body. The rest of the group were up on the trees. The moose was later euthanized so I guess there has been one fatality in the whole story.

lcarreau

lcarreau - Jan 29, 2009 8:35 pm - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

So, as the events unraveled in Toll Canyon
... the bell tolled for the moose.

I wonder how many moose live in northern UT ??
Somebody needs to go out and count those guys!

yatsek

yatsek - Jan 30, 2009 4:24 am - Voted 10/10

Re: wilderness

But a cow doesn't have antlers, does it? So does it - while charging - act more or less like a horse?

Dmitry Pruss

Dmitry Pruss - Jan 30, 2009 8:39 am - Hasn't voted

Re: wilderness

They use the hoofs, males and females alike,, and their legs are longer and more powerful than of any other local herbivores.

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