It looks like this will be a very nice addition to SP. I traveled
through the Philmont ranch on my way from Colorado to Taos and I was surprised at how nice the area was. Having heard about Philmont from my brother who spent some time there, I was sorry I didn't have more time to explore. On Wheeler Peak, I met 5 team members (staff) from Philmont who were using their day off to climb New Mexico's highest peak and if I remember correctly, one of the staff members was from Temecula (where my sister lives).
Thanks! I had tried to start it awhile back but couldn't find the time. It is an amazing area, different and unique from other places. Oh cool! I hope to be doing alot of that next year (climbing and hiking on the days off) while I staff there. Oh really? thats cool. Cheers!
Gotta rep the BSA. I've never been (too expensive) but everyone I know has loved it. Nice page. Thanks for posting.
Thanks, Woodscx. Definitely something every Scout and Scouter needs on their bucket list. --mark d.
When I was last there at the training center they wouldn't let the participants climb the Tooth--but Uracca Mesa was open. I've seen that view from Touch-Me-Not--Baldy looks oh-so-close, doesn't it? Anyway, don't overlook signing the climbing log--you'll have to scroll down near the bottom of the Philmont page to the "Have You Been to Philmont?" section for a link. --mark d.
I've always been disappointed that this area is private - should be open to everyone without the need for an itinerary...
Each year, thousands of Scouts will be disappointed to not succeed in securing a slot to trek Philmont. With 3,000 folks on treks on any given summer day, as well as fall and winter programs, I'm not certain how they could possibly manage a higher usage rate. That said, there are certain programs that I've heard of that are open to large donors to the Boy Scouts of America. Either that, or become a volunteer and go with a local troop or council contingent. --mark d.
In reality the privatization is the cause for the high usage. The area would be much less impacted and easier for anyone to enjoy sans the scout ranch. Just my opinion...
That's a good point; I think you're right. However, because of that privatization many young men will be exposed to the outdoors in a way that would never have happened had Philmont not existed. For many, even some who state it here on SP, this is the start of a long love with the wilderness. Some even describe Philmont as a life-altering experience. I think the good that comes from that offsets the fact that 137,000 acres of the U.S. is limited to registered Scouts and Scouters on official itineraries. BTW, John, you have some remarkably good photographs. Thanks very much for sharing them! --mark d.
Well done, guys. While I have never been to Philmont, I have heard great things about the place. I have always regretted my son losing interest in the Scouts. Baseball, guitar and snowboarding have taken their place, so I can't complain.
Thanks! It is a really amazing place. Going to Philmont definitely helped me take more of an interest in hiking and climbing. Thanks for your comments!
see copyright thread
I think you're being overly strict in your interpretation of the GFDL license in that thread. Please see my comment there. --mark d.
The third paragraph of your opening section seems redundant. Perhaps consolidate the first and third paragraphs?
You're right! I've edited it. Thanks for looking and commenting. --mark d.
I made a few trips to Philmont when I was a Scout. I can't wait to go back with my son (He just turned 3, still a long ways off)! Thanks for putting the work into this page.