FortMental wrote:As for training wheels, DMT, I considered it my responsibility to put training wheels on my kids' lives.... and then, know when to take the wheels off, and watch them fall on their faces a few times. I also pretended to look the other way, when they took the wheels off themselves.... Which bring up another point: There's a world of difference in teaching and training your kid to do something you do, and the kid who's done it entirely on his own because it was truly his/her own dream.
by Brad Marshall » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:25 pm
by Bruno » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:46 pm
The Chief wrote:Theses kids are only reflections of their parents desires. No more nor more less. Sorry, but these kids are far from heroes. Heroes do not accomplish self centered goals
Dingus Milktoast wrote:FortMental wrote:As for training wheels, DMT, I considered it my responsibility to put training wheels on my kids' lives.... and then, know when to take the wheels off, and watch them fall on their faces a few times.
I would say, FortMental, the same exact thing for the parents of either child in question. I see no child abuse in their choices, NONE. And FortMental, that is the only real dividing line imo.
by Gene » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:38 pm
Gene wrote:What's the purpose of being young other than to define yourself by taking risks? Ever climb a tree? Abby was in a state of the art yacht with all the bells and whistles. She was on belay and tied in well. A little rock fall made her cut short the route.
She had much better communication resourses and much better survival gear than my kid who just spent 6 months in rural Africa.
by outofstep80 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:01 pm
by Gene » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:21 pm
When a parent has to weigh the success of setting a record in evaluating readiness, a definite line has been crossed; Abby's parents didn't evaluate her readiness to solo around the world. They evaluated Abby's readiness to set a record, primarily, and sailing solo secondarily.
by Damien Gildea » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:24 pm
The Chief wrote:Damien Gildea wrote:And Mark Stratford made the 4th ascent of Mt Paget, highest on South Georgia, in 1994, then years later was killed serving in Iraq. More than a few good young British and European climbers never made it out of WW2.
More recently, Mark Evison never got the chance to go south: http://explorersweb.com/polar/news.php?id=18664
Oh here we go with Damien's self centered philosophy rants.
Far better a man that serves and dies for his nation, regardless the cause, than any man that goes after their own selfish goals.
But folks as yourself Damien, would not even understand that concept of true greatness.
The two young gentleman you share are in fact true heroes beyond that which the likes of you, Damien, will ever know, understand or experience. Period.
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