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Re: Time Off

by MoapaPk » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:26 pm

soronely wrote:Don't live your life afraid what others think of you, ask for the time off.
You didn't mention it during the interview, who fucking cares...live a little.
Do what is in your best interest, it's your life.
Go on the trip.


And then be the first one fired in a down-sizing.

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by SpiderSavage » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:37 pm

If you want to keep that job, skip the trip.

If you don't care that much for the job. Go for it.

Don't tell them what you are really doing (hard not to brag to fellow employees). When taking time off for fun call it "personal business." I hear that in Colorado they call it "Powder Rules."


And don't post anything on Facebook about it either. Unless your are a complete idiot.

Speaking as a former HR manager.

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by Augie Medina » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:44 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:
Mountain Impulse wrote:If you really like this job and there is opportunity for advancement, don't even ask. There are worse things than a "no" answer: a "no" and a lasting impression on your supervisor that "this guy doesn't have very good judgment even asking in the circumstances". First impressions are lasting.

Should you ask and get a go-ahead, you risk frosting your colleagues with your seeming audacity.


So are you saying he should just go or that he should cancel the trip?


I'm saying he should cancel his trip. I guess my second paragraph confused things.

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by kakakiw » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:53 pm

Is this a job that you want to hold onto,or is it a stepping stone? Think long and hard. In today's world, you might want to keep the job until you are 100% certain you have a well thought out back up plan.
Your boss might let you go on your trip, but chances are you won't have the job when you get back. Or if they need to cut positions later, you may be on the shitty end of the stick.
Live and learn.

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by mrchad9 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:19 am

SpiderSavage wrote:If you want to keep that job, skip the trip.
If you don't care that much for the job. Go for it.
Don't tell them what you are really doing (hard not to brag to fellow employees). When taking time off for fun call it "personal business." I hear that in Colorado they call it "Powder Rules."
And don't post anything on Facebook about it either. Unless your are a complete idiot.
Speaking as a former HR manager.

I've never heard of enjoying yourself on your time off as being something that would aggrivate fellow employees. Interesting places folks seem to work.

Office Space is fantastic! My company recently rolled out it's version of TPS reports. Makes me laugh all the time.

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by MoapaPk » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:26 am

mrchad9 wrote:I've never heard of enjoying yourself on your time off as being something that would aggrivate fellow employees. Interesting places folks seem to work.


If other employees think a person is getting special treatment, they can be quite angry. If they are required to work while another person is allowed to take vacation on the spur of the moment, they can get really angry. AH SEEN IT!

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by brianhughes » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:29 am

Volunteer to get on the laptop an hour or so each day (if it's that type of job, and if you have access), just to take care of the critical tasks and to keep plugged into the system.

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by Bob Sihler » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:51 am

Keep in mind that in this economy, jobs aren't falling from the sky; they're falling into bottomless pits. Not a great idea to push things as the new guy. Again, that's if you like the job or really need it.

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by JJBrunner » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:58 am

If you lose the job, you'll have more time to climb!

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by butitsadryheat » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:45 am

Are you friggin' serious? You have to ask?

Decide whether you want the job or not. That will answer your question.

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by Augie Medina » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:01 am

SP's Employment Advice Division has spoken. Now do the right thing. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Advice for Getting off Work

by Outside » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:38 am

What can I say that will give me the best chances of getting the time off ?

Try "I quit"

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by Smoove910 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:54 am

Since you do not know what your priorities are, I think you should find a couple more 'forums' online and ask them for advise. Nothing like reading this thread and wondering 'what do you do' only to have you not answer what your job is.

I think it's funny how people ask for this sort of advise, especially when the complete story isn't there on these forums, but that's just me.

How about you answer a couple questions...

1.) What is your job exactly?
2.) What made you think you didn't have to mention it in an interview? (I'm not sure about you, but there's nothing else on my mind EXCEPT the 'big trip' weeks before it happens)
3.) Which is really more important to you, trip or job?

I would also suspect that if you have a family that you should just buck up and stick with the job. Especially since, as previously mentioned, jobs are not plentiful in these times.

Personally I would test the waters with the manager and at least explain your situation and ask. There's no reason to walk on thin ice around a new work environment. If by asking a simple request is frowned upon, then maybe the job isn't in your best interest long-term.

Good luck either way!

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